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what do you think the current state of

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the election count is is this thing

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over or what i i read my l.a times today

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um and in a 20-page first section of the

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times was in a single article about

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the vote count so what's the latest news

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well i think uh the honest news not the

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hidden news but the real news

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is that the election was not determined

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yet

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we have at least six states that are in

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play we probably have another two states

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that could be in play if they choose to

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and i think that my forecast model is at

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odds with the results and i really

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believe my forecast models because i've

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been forecasting

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presidential elections since 1976 and

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i'm usually pretty close to being

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exactly right what do you base your

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forecast on

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well simply my forecast models which are

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proprietary

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but they're based on variables that i

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look at things like registration

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dynamics

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i look at how the state's registrations

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are changing for each party

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i look at voter intensity i look at

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voter enthusiasm and i have a whole

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list of other variables and my book more

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great news for america i discuss

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how i build my forecast models there's

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an interesting variable that i had never

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thought of that a

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professor from my alma mater uc irvine

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marty watenberg

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who's a forecaster he mentioned that i

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hadn't

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heard thought of before is the number of

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trump voters that had passed away

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and the number in the number of new gen

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whatever gen we're in gen y that have

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moved in

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right so your electorate is always

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moving up four years

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so you've got the 17 to 21 year olds

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that are now voting

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or sorry 14 to 18 year olds right from

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the last one that are now voting

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and then you've got the people that have

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passed away and that shift

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could be significant that's an

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interesting one i haven't heard of that

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i'm familiar with some of the major

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forecast models out there that there's a

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professor at stony brook universally

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who predicted trump was going to win

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this time with 300

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electoral votes and by the way he was

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right exactly close last time and in

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2016 my forecast model had trump winning

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and i picked every state correctly that

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he carried

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and i don't think anyone else did that

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okay so what did you project

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for this year i predict that donald

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trump would win

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with more electoral votes than last time

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last time he got 306.

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and i predicted he would win more than

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that and i and i honestly believe he did

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i do not believe uh things like

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pennsylvania

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i mean if you look at just registration

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figures alone

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uh and not some of the other variables

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uh there were

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about a quarter of a million more

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registered republicans in the state of

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that alone should have given him a

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bigger margin

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and i i really think the more evidence i

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read and see

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my my thought is that the number of

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states the votes were tampered with

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and states were adding votes and let me

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give you an example why i believe this

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one piece of data the pew research

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group which is a very reputable

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organization you're probably familiar

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with them

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and that they found that 96 percent of

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and and biden voters said that whoever

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they voted for president they would also

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vote down ballot for senate same party

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so they voted for trump they go for

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republican senate candidate

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they voted for buying they vote for the

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fine senate candidate the democrat

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well if you look at the states you find

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georgia biden somehow got 95

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when you see those kind of things uh you

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statistically what's going on well let's

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copy right let's stop it right there

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because that's a lot of votes

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so right if there's if there's extra

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senate votes then that tells you that's

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that's not a ballot thing that's a

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computer thing right

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or or are you saying it's a valid thing

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but they didn't even bot in those

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let's say fraudulent ballots they didn't

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even bother to check the box on senator

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sure that people are manufacturing

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ballot stuffing you know but what are

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because you know i'm really searching

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for some hard evidence we're we're

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two weeks out here and i think a lot of

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people are expecting to see some hard

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very soon because if not they're gonna

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that there was genuine fraud what are

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read the lawsuits i could put my hands

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on and there you get some

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real evidence of what they're believing

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uh they're presenting more evidence this

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say the way to really uncover the

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that's where it's being presented to

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judges and judges will have to determine

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is the evidence adequate to overturn an

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election which is what i think they're

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so let's talk about what's the most

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compelling things that you've read

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um there's something called the 14th

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okay so again i'm looking for hard

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something i'm going to probe

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a little bit so so in michigan

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you're saying that on mail-in ballots if

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democrats and would actually reach out

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let's talk about the poll workers for a

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kind of interesting um as far as who

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the reporters there and they're

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surprised him like wait a minute

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done that in my life too you know i've

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that's the wrong side they'll have a

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democrat on the left and they'll have a

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and they'll both be watching and making

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sure everything's on the up and up

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you know the ballot gets through that

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looks weird you know or

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did something wrong so they have people

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uh reluctance not reluctance they push

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within a reasonable distance they said

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they said that some of them needed

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literally would need binoculars to see

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the ballots they were so far away

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how close were you when you were judging

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next to them no space restriction

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that's the normal way that's

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to challenge anything that's funny and

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then when you're done counting you have

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some confidence that she wins our votes

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were right we stood there for hours

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doing this

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right so that you know i know that's

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been a big one that giuliani has been

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pointing out

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talking about 130 000 ballots in

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philadelphia but

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don't you think if you're the judge on

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this the remedy

295
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if that was a problem is to

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recount them with the observers closer

297
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well the problem is when they remove the

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ballot from the envelope

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and we don't you're not able to go back

300
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and and see

301
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the envelope that that goes with a

302
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particular ballot

303
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and was there a signature on that

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envelope did it have a correct date if

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it was postmarked

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that's another problem in pennsylvania

307
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you know the supreme court which are a

308
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bunch of elected democrats

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i think it's five to two democrats

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elected in pennsylvania

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they said well it's okay if it comes in

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past 8 p.m on election day

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which is state law and they said it's

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okay if it has a

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faulty or defective postmark it's okay

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if it's

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illegible it's okay if it doesn't have a

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signature well those judges were

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rewriting the state law

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and article two section one of the

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constitution says

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the legislature has the right and the

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authority

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to set laws for the electors

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and when the state of pennsylvania had

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these laws

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it was up to the supreme court of

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pennsylvania to follow them but they

329
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chose not to

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and that's why ultimately justice alito

331
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of the supreme court

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came in and i think ultimately why

333
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pennsylvania is going to be thrown out

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for biden

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and those 20 electoral votes are going

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to go to trump okay

337
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so sticking with pennsylvania um yeah it

338
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definitely seems like this court

339
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ruling is quite questionable um in fact

340
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let me ask you i don't know if you've

341
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read the ruling but let's just start

342
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with

343
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what was the basis for a court

344
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to say that i know the legislature said

345
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it has to be received

346
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by election day not postmarked received

347
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but we're going to say it's okay as long

348
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as it's postmarked by

349
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election day what was the reasoning of

350
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that court

351
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well you'd call that an activist judge

352
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uh they're they're making law

353
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there there is no people but they had to

354
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have some explanation as to why

355
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they were they were modifying was it a

356
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covid related

357
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thing or what what was the the rationale

358
00:12:04,790 --> 00:12:03,360
there do you know i didn't read their

359
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original ruling to tell you

360
00:12:08,230 --> 00:12:07,040
precisely i don't know it might have

361
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been coveted

362
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it might have been they felt like uh

363
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because of covet people needed more time

364
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it doesn't really matter what they

365
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thought yeah it doesn't matter i'm just

366
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i'm just curious

367
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they're making up laws you can't do that

368
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okay but still

369
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that means that any uh ballots that came

370
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in

371
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after election day would be the ones

372
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that would be tossed out

373
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and do we know how many ballots that is

374
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because i've heard that's

375
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a pretty modest number justice alito

376
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justice alito demanded that they

377
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segregate the ballots

378
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so we should be able to find out if they

379
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did that

380
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in fact if they didn't then they

381
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violated a court order like that

382
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that's reason for throwing it out so we

383
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would need because

384
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by it looks like the count is biden one

385
00:12:57,509 --> 00:12:54,800
pennsylvania by about 69 000

386
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votes so right and trump was ahead by

387
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700

388
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000 going into the overnight hours yeah

389
00:13:05,670 --> 00:13:05,200
but he was also yeah but biden was way

390
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ahead

391
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in florida early and then trump overcame

392
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him so i think these states all went in

393
00:13:13,190 --> 00:13:11,440
different directions based on when they

394
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counted the mail-in you had this huge

395
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discrepancy between

396
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way ahead early in florida you must not

397
00:13:21,030 --> 00:13:18,160
have seen all the numbers

398
00:13:21,590 --> 00:13:21,040
trump trump was way ahead in florida

399
00:13:23,190 --> 00:13:21,600
well

400
00:13:25,829 --> 00:13:23,200
all i know is i was watching florida

401
00:13:27,910 --> 00:13:25,839
very closely and at about 50 percent

402
00:13:29,269 --> 00:13:27,920
counted trump was down trump made a big

403
00:13:31,750 --> 00:13:29,279
comeback in the last

404
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50 i mean that's my specific

405
00:13:34,150 --> 00:13:33,040
recollection of watching the election

406
00:13:35,430 --> 00:13:34,160
results that night maybe i'm

407
00:13:38,069 --> 00:13:35,440
misremembering but

408
00:13:39,430 --> 00:13:38,079
um you know i i think you know some of

409
00:13:40,150 --> 00:13:39,440
these states we know pennsylvania

410
00:13:44,310 --> 00:13:40,160
counted

411
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the mail-ins after the in-persons

412
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i think florida probably counted the

413
00:13:49,590 --> 00:13:48,240
mail-ins before the in persons and and

414
00:13:50,870 --> 00:13:49,600
hence the reason why you would get that

415
00:13:53,430 --> 00:13:50,880
flip i mean look we can't dispute the

416
00:13:55,910 --> 00:13:53,440
fact that mail-ins were heavy biden

417
00:13:57,430 --> 00:13:55,920
and in person was favored trump right so

418
00:13:59,110 --> 00:13:57,440
obviously

419
00:14:01,269 --> 00:13:59,120
my point is i'm not going to say that oh

420
00:14:02,710 --> 00:14:01,279
my gosh this is fraudulent because all

421
00:14:03,590 --> 00:14:02,720
of a sudden trump was winning big and

422
00:14:05,110 --> 00:14:03,600
then he lost

423
00:14:06,629 --> 00:14:05,120
there's an easy explanation for that

424
00:14:07,670 --> 00:14:06,639
that's the fact the mail-in ballots were

425
00:14:08,710 --> 00:14:07,680
heavy biden

426
00:14:10,710 --> 00:14:08,720
and you have to count the mail-in

427
00:14:14,150 --> 00:14:10,720
ballots i i just don't like that as an

428
00:14:15,590 --> 00:14:14,160
as our argument that it's fraudulent no

429
00:14:17,990 --> 00:14:15,600
well i think it you have to put

430
00:14:19,269 --> 00:14:18,000
everything together and you have to put

431
00:14:21,030 --> 00:14:19,279
all the pieces together

432
00:14:22,870 --> 00:14:21,040
the timing of it and you also have to

433
00:14:25,670 --> 00:14:22,880
put together if uh

434
00:14:26,230 --> 00:14:25,680
extraneous ballots showed up uh you know

435
00:14:28,829 --> 00:14:26,240
the the

436
00:14:29,990 --> 00:14:28,839
claim in wisconsin for example is that

437
00:14:32,150 --> 00:14:30,000
um

438
00:14:34,710 --> 00:14:32,160
how many was it i think it was 62 000

439
00:14:37,750 --> 00:14:34,720
ballots showed up at 4am

440
00:14:39,990 --> 00:14:37,760
and uh and changed the numbers then

441
00:14:41,269 --> 00:14:40,000
and that by the way is a statistical

442
00:14:43,829 --> 00:14:41,279
issue for me as well

443
00:14:45,110 --> 00:14:43,839
because you look at statistics and i'm a

444
00:14:47,509 --> 00:14:45,120
numbers guy

445
00:14:48,870 --> 00:14:47,519
and that and you see the normal give and

446
00:14:51,110 --> 00:14:48,880
take of balloting if you

447
00:14:52,230 --> 00:14:51,120
watch minute by minute the numbers

448
00:14:53,829 --> 00:14:52,240
coming in

449
00:14:55,590 --> 00:14:53,839
you know they go up a little bit for one

450
00:14:56,790 --> 00:14:55,600
they go up a little for the other person

451
00:14:59,509 --> 00:14:56,800
back and forth

452
00:15:00,310 --> 00:14:59,519
but then you know overnight between 2

453
00:15:03,030 --> 00:15:00,320
a.m and 6

454
00:15:05,269 --> 00:15:03,040
a.m you see sudden jumps outrageously

455
00:15:08,310 --> 00:15:05,279
large numbers for one person only

456
00:15:09,430 --> 00:15:08,320
that looks extremely uh suspicious and

457
00:15:12,069 --> 00:15:09,440
then when you get

458
00:15:13,110 --> 00:15:12,079
on this you know on the ground people

459
00:15:16,949 --> 00:15:13,120
who said we saw

460
00:15:19,030 --> 00:15:16,959
you know three uh cars pull up with 61

461
00:15:20,949 --> 00:15:19,040
boxes of ballots for biden and there

462
00:15:23,670 --> 00:15:20,959
wasn't one trump ballot

463
00:15:27,189 --> 00:15:23,680
those kind of affidavits lend credence

464
00:15:29,749 --> 00:15:27,199
to the statistical analysis

465
00:15:31,189 --> 00:15:29,759
yeah so i mean again at the end of the

466
00:15:33,990 --> 00:15:31,199
day we're going to need the

467
00:15:35,749 --> 00:15:34,000
the hard evidence um because right now i

468
00:15:37,110 --> 00:15:35,759
know a lot of people think

469
00:15:39,509 --> 00:15:37,120
yeah i think a lot of people think it's

470
00:15:43,269 --> 00:15:39,519
it smells fishy

471
00:15:45,269 --> 00:15:43,279
and you know i'm certainly very open

472
00:15:46,470 --> 00:15:45,279
to this review i think it's excellent

473
00:15:49,749 --> 00:15:46,480
that we're going to have this

474
00:15:52,710 --> 00:15:49,759
audit um and finally find out what's

475
00:15:53,509 --> 00:15:52,720
going on we know there are fraudulent

476
00:15:55,110 --> 00:15:53,519
balance i think

477
00:15:56,550 --> 00:15:55,120
no one would disagree that there's some

478
00:15:57,590 --> 00:15:56,560
level of fraud that there's at least one

479
00:15:59,189 --> 00:15:57,600
fraudulent ballot

480
00:16:00,949 --> 00:15:59,199
right so if you can believe there's one

481
00:16:02,949 --> 00:16:00,959
fraudulent ballot then the question is

482
00:16:05,350 --> 00:16:02,959
how many fraudulent ballots are they are

483
00:16:07,590 --> 00:16:05,360
there and let's finally get to

484
00:16:09,509 --> 00:16:07,600
the bottom of this and and find out and

485
00:16:11,749 --> 00:16:09,519
and if it turns out that

486
00:16:13,189 --> 00:16:11,759
the fraud was minimal then great we

487
00:16:13,910 --> 00:16:13,199
learned that if it turns out the fraud

488
00:16:15,430 --> 00:16:13,920
was

489
00:16:17,829 --> 00:16:15,440
more than minimal then we learned that

490
00:16:20,230 --> 00:16:17,839
but let's find out

491
00:16:21,670 --> 00:16:20,240
yeah that's a good point uh we do know

492
00:16:22,870 --> 00:16:21,680
in nevada for example there are

493
00:16:25,350 --> 00:16:22,880
thousands of people

494
00:16:27,030 --> 00:16:25,360
who were not in state and there are a

495
00:16:28,550 --> 00:16:27,040
few of those who were military and

496
00:16:30,230 --> 00:16:28,560
that's fine they were out of state and

497
00:16:30,870 --> 00:16:30,240
voted but the others who had moved out

498
00:16:33,749 --> 00:16:30,880
of the state

499
00:16:34,790 --> 00:16:33,759
shouldn't be counted uh also we've

500
00:16:37,350 --> 00:16:34,800
looked at

501
00:16:39,110 --> 00:16:37,360
you know the national database of deaths

502
00:16:40,710 --> 00:16:39,120
and that compared to ballots

503
00:16:42,230 --> 00:16:40,720
and it turns out a lot of those people

504
00:16:45,269 --> 00:16:42,240
who are dead voted

505
00:16:48,550 --> 00:16:45,279
and that's that's the problem having

506
00:16:52,389 --> 00:16:48,560
overseen ballot counting before right

507
00:16:53,590 --> 00:16:52,399
how do they um how do they catch that on

508
00:16:54,389 --> 00:16:53,600
the day of i mean it just seems to me

509
00:16:57,269 --> 00:16:54,399
you're counting

510
00:16:58,230 --> 00:16:57,279
millions of ballots are you telling me

511
00:17:02,230 --> 00:16:58,240
the signature

512
00:17:04,549 --> 00:17:02,240
is compared every single time yes

513
00:17:05,429 --> 00:17:04,559
in reputable states where they do it by

514
00:17:07,829 --> 00:17:05,439
the book

515
00:17:09,590 --> 00:17:07,839
they do they have the signatures and

516
00:17:12,470 --> 00:17:09,600
they even allow for a little bit you

517
00:17:14,230 --> 00:17:12,480
know people's signatures change slightly

518
00:17:15,909 --> 00:17:14,240
and what they would do for example in my

519
00:17:18,069 --> 00:17:15,919
state colorado

520
00:17:19,270 --> 00:17:18,079
is is your signature differs a little

521
00:17:21,750 --> 00:17:19,280
bit too much

522
00:17:22,870 --> 00:17:21,760
you get a call after the election like

523
00:17:25,270 --> 00:17:22,880
the next day

524
00:17:26,470 --> 00:17:25,280
and you're saying did you have a stroke

525
00:17:28,069 --> 00:17:26,480
did you break your arm

526
00:17:30,070 --> 00:17:28,079
why is your signature different and they

527
00:17:32,230 --> 00:17:30,080
better have a good reason and by the way

528
00:17:34,710 --> 00:17:32,240
is that for an in-person vote or for a

529
00:17:37,990 --> 00:17:34,720
mail-in vote

530
00:17:40,230 --> 00:17:38,000
uh either all ballots all

531
00:17:41,029 --> 00:17:40,240
well in colorado there's really no

532
00:17:43,909 --> 00:17:41,039
longer

533
00:17:45,510 --> 00:17:43,919
many in-person votes it's rare because

534
00:17:48,789 --> 00:17:45,520
in colorado 100

535
00:17:51,270 --> 00:17:48,799
of the voter registration file is

536
00:17:52,870 --> 00:17:51,280
sent a ballot and so normally everybody

537
00:17:54,950 --> 00:17:52,880
just signs an envelope

538
00:17:55,909 --> 00:17:54,960
and deposits it in the mail or at a

539
00:17:58,230 --> 00:17:55,919
voter center

540
00:17:59,190 --> 00:17:58,240
right and then if you go to vote in

541
00:18:01,510 --> 00:17:59,200
person california

542
00:18:02,230 --> 00:18:01,520
california california's the same way um

543
00:18:03,430 --> 00:18:02,240
so we get

544
00:18:06,310 --> 00:18:03,440
i don't know what the percentages are

545
00:18:08,789 --> 00:18:06,320
but probably 70 percent are mail-in

546
00:18:09,830 --> 00:18:08,799
um but for the people that go to the

547
00:18:11,510 --> 00:18:09,840
poll

548
00:18:14,230 --> 00:18:11,520
what is the means of identification

549
00:18:17,430 --> 00:18:14,240
typically they have a voter

550
00:18:19,270 --> 00:18:17,440
um a a book of signatures they've got a

551
00:18:20,390 --> 00:18:19,280
book of registrations and you better be

552
00:18:22,070 --> 00:18:20,400
in it

553
00:18:23,590 --> 00:18:22,080
so you you go and you give your name i

554
00:18:24,870 --> 00:18:23,600
know there's all this controversy over

555
00:18:26,710 --> 00:18:24,880
whether you should have to show an id

556
00:18:27,990 --> 00:18:26,720
or not seems like a no-brainer that you

557
00:18:30,070 --> 00:18:28,000
should show an id but

558
00:18:31,510 --> 00:18:30,080
in 100 countries in the world you have

559
00:18:33,750 --> 00:18:31,520
to use order id

560
00:18:35,669 --> 00:18:33,760
why don't we use it right so instead we

561
00:18:37,110 --> 00:18:35,679
just walk into the poll room and give

562
00:18:39,990 --> 00:18:37,120
our name

563
00:18:41,110 --> 00:18:40,000
right name and address depends on the

564
00:18:43,669 --> 00:18:41,120
state

565
00:18:45,110 --> 00:18:43,679
and then they look you up to see that

566
00:18:46,950 --> 00:18:45,120
you're on there

567
00:18:48,870 --> 00:18:46,960
and then what you probably sign your

568
00:18:51,669 --> 00:18:48,880
name next to

569
00:18:52,789 --> 00:18:51,679
yeah next your name so that that's our

570
00:18:56,070 --> 00:18:52,799
identification

571
00:18:57,750 --> 00:18:56,080
sorry i mean signatures today you know

572
00:18:59,110 --> 00:18:57,760
we hardly you think you know even with a

573
00:19:00,310 --> 00:18:59,120
credit card

574
00:19:02,390 --> 00:19:00,320
most of the time they don't require a

575
00:19:04,549 --> 00:19:02,400
signature anymore i mean it's

576
00:19:05,830 --> 00:19:04,559
the banks don't require a signature on

577
00:19:07,990 --> 00:19:05,840
credit cards

578
00:19:09,510 --> 00:19:08,000
if some stores do i don't know why

579
00:19:10,870 --> 00:19:09,520
because it's not really necessary

580
00:19:13,029 --> 00:19:10,880
anymore

581
00:19:14,630 --> 00:19:13,039
they just go by the credit card itself i

582
00:19:15,750 --> 00:19:14,640
know when i do sign my signature on

583
00:19:17,190 --> 00:19:15,760
something i just

584
00:19:18,549 --> 00:19:17,200
scribble something and it wouldn't match

585
00:19:19,350 --> 00:19:18,559
anything and i think a lot of people do

586
00:19:22,070 --> 00:19:19,360
that it's just such an

587
00:19:22,870 --> 00:19:22,080
antiquated way of security these days

588
00:19:24,549 --> 00:19:22,880
well

589
00:19:26,230 --> 00:19:24,559
a thumb print would be better we could

590
00:19:29,350 --> 00:19:26,240
go to that system

591
00:19:32,710 --> 00:19:29,360
boy would that really cut down on fraud

592
00:19:33,990 --> 00:19:32,720
because don't don't match you know i

593
00:19:35,909 --> 00:19:34,000
mean

594
00:19:37,190 --> 00:19:35,919
you can't really fake it you know a

595
00:19:39,750 --> 00:19:37,200
computer could easily

596
00:19:41,590 --> 00:19:39,760
check that you would think oh absolutely

597
00:19:44,950 --> 00:19:41,600
yeah

598
00:19:47,990 --> 00:19:44,960
let me ask you this in the past what is

599
00:19:50,630 --> 00:19:48,000
give me an example of major voter fraud

600
00:19:52,390 --> 00:19:50,640
that has been uncovered in a an election

601
00:19:52,789 --> 00:19:52,400
whether it be presidential or other fed

602
00:19:55,590 --> 00:19:52,799
you know

603
00:19:56,150 --> 00:19:55,600
senate congress major fraud that's been

604
00:19:59,190 --> 00:19:56,160
uncovered

605
00:20:04,230 --> 00:19:59,200
in voting well um

606
00:20:07,510 --> 00:20:04,240
i believe uh nixon kennedy you know the

607
00:20:10,310 --> 00:20:07,520
mayor daley was famous in chicago for

608
00:20:11,990 --> 00:20:10,320
seeing to it that democrats would win

609
00:20:14,470 --> 00:20:12,000
the city of chicago

610
00:20:15,270 --> 00:20:14,480
and a lot of people feel that uh he

611
00:20:17,510 --> 00:20:15,280
waited

612
00:20:19,990 --> 00:20:17,520
to turn in more ballots for kennedy so

613
00:20:24,070 --> 00:20:20,000
that nixon would lose illinois

614
00:20:25,830 --> 00:20:24,080
same thing happened in texas and nixon

615
00:20:27,909 --> 00:20:25,840
didn't want to put the country into a

616
00:20:31,270 --> 00:20:27,919
crisis by challenging it

617
00:20:32,549 --> 00:20:31,280
and he conceded but probably nixon won

618
00:20:35,750 --> 00:20:32,559
in 1960.

619
00:20:39,110 --> 00:20:35,760
did nixon how many states did he lose by

620
00:20:40,070 --> 00:20:39,120
two two illinois and texas so he would

621
00:20:42,950 --> 00:20:40,080
have had to overturn

622
00:20:44,470 --> 00:20:42,960
both texas and illinois right and you

623
00:20:45,590 --> 00:20:44,480
happen to recall the number of votes

624
00:20:47,270 --> 00:20:45,600
that were

625
00:20:48,789 --> 00:20:47,280
at stake there how much he lost that

626
00:20:49,990 --> 00:20:48,799
year i'd have to look it up i don't

627
00:20:51,669 --> 00:20:50,000
remember it

628
00:20:53,350 --> 00:20:51,679
but anyway they were they were pretty

629
00:20:54,710 --> 00:20:53,360
close probably about you lost by about a

630
00:20:55,750 --> 00:20:54,720
point or something like that in each one

631
00:20:58,149 --> 00:20:55,760
of them

632
00:20:59,029 --> 00:20:58,159
oh you mean the number percentage oh

633
00:21:01,350 --> 00:20:59,039
it's very close

634
00:21:02,789 --> 00:21:01,360
extremely close it might have been 100

635
00:21:05,750 --> 00:21:02,799
000 votes each

636
00:21:09,190 --> 00:21:05,760
was there at least a recount no no

637
00:21:11,510 --> 00:21:09,200
recount he didn't challenge he conceded

638
00:21:12,549 --> 00:21:11,520
it would be as if trump conceded right

639
00:21:14,470 --> 00:21:12,559
away

640
00:21:16,070 --> 00:21:14,480
immediately on wednesday which he didn't

641
00:21:18,789 --> 00:21:16,080
do so

642
00:21:21,270 --> 00:21:18,799
there was never any investigation into

643
00:21:23,350 --> 00:21:21,280
that alleged fraud then

644
00:21:25,029 --> 00:21:23,360
no formal investigation no legal

645
00:21:27,110 --> 00:21:25,039
investigation there might have been some

646
00:21:29,590 --> 00:21:27,120
people that tried to you know historians

647
00:21:31,510 --> 00:21:29,600
have wanted to know for themselves

648
00:21:33,909 --> 00:21:31,520
and was the belief there that it was

649
00:21:39,110 --> 00:21:33,919
dead people voting

650
00:21:40,310 --> 00:21:39,120
uh a lot of them yes and how do you

651
00:21:41,990 --> 00:21:40,320
again i'm trying to get the hard

652
00:21:42,789 --> 00:21:42,000
evidence here so and just walking

653
00:21:45,909 --> 00:21:42,799
through how this

654
00:21:47,190 --> 00:21:45,919
happens right so you you've got dead

655
00:21:50,390 --> 00:21:47,200
people on the roll so

656
00:21:50,870 --> 00:21:50,400
who is voting for these dead people how

657
00:21:53,350 --> 00:21:50,880
does this

658
00:21:54,070 --> 00:21:53,360
happen well for example let's take a

659
00:21:56,870 --> 00:21:54,080
state

660
00:21:58,630 --> 00:21:56,880
that mails out their entire uh

661
00:22:01,510 --> 00:21:58,640
registration rolls

662
00:22:03,110 --> 00:22:01,520
and sends each one on the roll a ballot

663
00:22:07,110 --> 00:22:03,120
you know some people

664
00:22:08,549 --> 00:22:07,120
of state and there may be other reasons

665
00:22:10,310 --> 00:22:08,559
why people they may have moved to a

666
00:22:12,950 --> 00:22:10,320
different city within the state and they

667
00:22:14,230 --> 00:22:12,960
shouldn't be registered in san diego now

668
00:22:16,870 --> 00:22:14,240
or whatever

669
00:22:18,390 --> 00:22:16,880
uh they should have a registration in la

670
00:22:21,990 --> 00:22:18,400
maybe let's say

671
00:22:24,549 --> 00:22:22,000
okay so those things happen but

672
00:22:25,669 --> 00:22:24,559
uh this the votes go i heard someone in

673
00:22:28,549 --> 00:22:25,679
california

674
00:22:30,870 --> 00:22:28,559
say for this election he lived in an

675
00:22:34,230 --> 00:22:30,880
apartment building he said i received

676
00:22:37,110 --> 00:22:34,240
five ballots at my apartment his own

677
00:22:38,870 --> 00:22:37,120
and four others and he presumed he said

678
00:22:40,310 --> 00:22:38,880
he figured the other four must have

679
00:22:41,990 --> 00:22:40,320
previously lived

680
00:22:43,510 --> 00:22:42,000
and given that address and that's why

681
00:22:45,830 --> 00:22:43,520
they were sent there

682
00:22:46,870 --> 00:22:45,840
so he had five fellows now if you're an

683
00:22:48,710 --> 00:22:46,880
honest person

684
00:22:50,070 --> 00:22:48,720
you throw out the other four you don't

685
00:22:52,950 --> 00:22:50,080
try to vote for them

686
00:22:54,070 --> 00:22:52,960
but what can happen is somebody died and

687
00:22:56,789 --> 00:22:54,080
uh

688
00:22:58,230 --> 00:22:56,799
their house maybe they want to make sure

689
00:23:00,710 --> 00:22:58,240
that somebody gets elected

690
00:23:01,510 --> 00:23:00,720
so they put in an extra vote that's how

691
00:23:04,549 --> 00:23:01,520
it happens

692
00:23:05,669 --> 00:23:04,559
yeah now theoretically theoretically it

693
00:23:06,789 --> 00:23:05,679
should be tossed out because the

694
00:23:08,070 --> 00:23:06,799
signature doesn't match

695
00:23:09,909 --> 00:23:08,080
because the person would have to know

696
00:23:12,950 --> 00:23:09,919
that person's signature right

697
00:23:15,029 --> 00:23:12,960
exactly but they're not always checked

698
00:23:18,149 --> 00:23:15,039
a lot of states are eliminating the

699
00:23:20,470 --> 00:23:18,159
voter verification with uh signature

700
00:23:21,590 --> 00:23:20,480
which i'm against but if but if that

701
00:23:24,630 --> 00:23:21,600
were

702
00:23:26,070 --> 00:23:24,640
the basis for the the fraud that's kind

703
00:23:27,270 --> 00:23:26,080
of onesie twozy

704
00:23:29,909 --> 00:23:27,280
kind of stuff because that could have

705
00:23:31,110 --> 00:23:29,919
shown up it's like a thousand or two

706
00:23:32,549 --> 00:23:31,120
thousand it's not

707
00:23:35,669 --> 00:23:32,559
but but here's my point though that's

708
00:23:37,669 --> 00:23:35,679
not organized fraud that's an individual

709
00:23:39,110 --> 00:23:37,679
deciding oh i got an extra ballot i'm

710
00:23:40,230 --> 00:23:39,120
going to vote and by the way he could be

711
00:23:41,909 --> 00:23:40,240
a trump voter

712
00:23:43,830 --> 00:23:41,919
so you know kind of equal chance he

713
00:23:45,190 --> 00:23:43,840
could have been trump or biden there so

714
00:23:47,750 --> 00:23:45,200
it doesn't seem to me that's going to

715
00:23:49,269 --> 00:23:47,760
account for enough to overturn what

716
00:23:50,230 --> 00:23:49,279
needs to be overturned in these states

717
00:23:52,310 --> 00:23:50,240
so

718
00:23:53,430 --> 00:23:52,320
you know i think what is going to need

719
00:23:56,549 --> 00:23:53,440
to be uncovered is

720
00:23:59,350 --> 00:23:56,559
organized premeditated

721
00:24:00,870 --> 00:23:59,360
fraud that right let me bring up a point

722
00:24:01,269 --> 00:24:00,880
you haven't brought up yet might as well

723
00:24:04,310 --> 00:24:01,279
mention

724
00:24:07,110 --> 00:24:04,320
it as a premeditated fraud

725
00:24:08,390 --> 00:24:07,120
and that is the dominion software you

726
00:24:12,230 --> 00:24:08,400
know um

727
00:24:13,590 --> 00:24:12,240
the trump campaign says that they have

728
00:24:15,190 --> 00:24:13,600
evidence they're presenting to the

729
00:24:17,990 --> 00:24:15,200
courts this week

730
00:24:19,669 --> 00:24:18,000
that the software had a back door and

731
00:24:22,149 --> 00:24:19,679
the back door was put in

732
00:24:23,110 --> 00:24:22,159
intentionally the software is owned by

733
00:24:25,669 --> 00:24:23,120
someone who is

734
00:24:27,990 --> 00:24:25,679
now on the biden transition team this is

735
00:24:31,029 --> 00:24:28,000
the software used in 30 states

736
00:24:32,789 --> 00:24:31,039
used all over michigan and it's software

737
00:24:34,470 --> 00:24:32,799
they say has a back door

738
00:24:36,630 --> 00:24:34,480
where you can monitor the voting and

739
00:24:38,070 --> 00:24:36,640
decide how many more to add to one side

740
00:24:40,390 --> 00:24:38,080
or the other

741
00:24:42,390 --> 00:24:40,400
now that would be organized that would

742
00:24:44,149 --> 00:24:42,400
be definitely criminal

743
00:24:46,070 --> 00:24:44,159
yeah well it does raise the question

744
00:24:49,110 --> 00:24:46,080
this is another question i have for you

745
00:24:51,269 --> 00:24:49,120
um is that you know we know that

746
00:24:53,110 --> 00:24:51,279
dictators steal elections around the

747
00:24:56,470 --> 00:24:53,120
world you know putin gets

748
00:24:59,909 --> 00:24:56,480
92 of the vote the guy in venezuela

749
00:25:02,950 --> 00:25:02,070
do we believe that that's people that

750
00:25:05,430 --> 00:25:02,960
are just

751
00:25:07,669 --> 00:25:05,440
scared to not vote for putin or we think

752
00:25:10,390 --> 00:25:07,679
that that is election fraud

753
00:25:10,950 --> 00:25:10,400
oh i think it's election fraud and how

754
00:25:12,630 --> 00:25:10,960
do we

755
00:25:15,110 --> 00:25:12,640
has there ever been any stories or

756
00:25:16,310 --> 00:25:15,120
analysis as to how it

757
00:25:17,909 --> 00:25:16,320
what happens in other words does it

758
00:25:19,669 --> 00:25:17,919
happen through some type of software

759
00:25:23,269 --> 00:25:19,679
program like dominion

760
00:25:25,990 --> 00:25:23,279
yes absolutely and in fact

761
00:25:28,070 --> 00:25:26,000
my understanding is and again i'm

762
00:25:30,630 --> 00:25:28,080
looking to the lawsuits to give me more

763
00:25:33,510 --> 00:25:30,640
information too when they release it and

764
00:25:35,669 --> 00:25:33,520
that is that a venezuelan company was on

765
00:25:38,070 --> 00:25:35,679
contract with a number of our states to

766
00:25:40,310 --> 00:25:38,080
do our vote counting for us

767
00:25:43,430 --> 00:25:40,320
if that's true i would expect to be more

768
00:25:45,669 --> 00:25:43,440
likely to be foreign

769
00:25:46,789 --> 00:25:45,679
yeah and then the question is is this

770
00:25:48,390 --> 00:25:46,799
the first time

771
00:25:50,390 --> 00:25:48,400
if there was this type of fraud is this

772
00:25:53,190 --> 00:25:50,400
the first time or has it been

773
00:25:56,310 --> 00:25:53,200
i think we have evidence it goes back

774
00:25:58,870 --> 00:25:56,320
that it's happened in other elections uh

775
00:26:00,470 --> 00:25:58,880
and and they have proof on that too so i

776
00:26:02,549 --> 00:26:00,480
i think

777
00:26:04,870 --> 00:26:02,559
if there's something here it's big and

778
00:26:06,470 --> 00:26:04,880
if it's big it's gonna be another deep

779
00:26:08,710 --> 00:26:06,480
state

780
00:26:10,390 --> 00:26:08,720
if you will scandal that's being

781
00:26:11,269 --> 00:26:10,400
surfaced and we're going to have to wait

782
00:26:13,909 --> 00:26:11,279
and see if that's

783
00:26:15,110 --> 00:26:13,919
the truth or not i don't know you know

784
00:26:17,510 --> 00:26:15,120
ultimately i'm an

785
00:26:20,470 --> 00:26:17,520
analyst i'm a numbers guy i analyze

786
00:26:22,149 --> 00:26:20,480
numbers i can't guarantee

787
00:26:24,390 --> 00:26:22,159
you know every number that somebody

788
00:26:25,669 --> 00:26:24,400
gives me is correct and

789
00:26:27,269 --> 00:26:25,679
we're going to have to wait and see what

790
00:26:29,510 --> 00:26:27,279
happens but i think a lot's going to

791
00:26:30,789 --> 00:26:29,520
happen in the next couple of weeks

792
00:26:34,070 --> 00:26:30,799
let's go back to talking about the poll

793
00:26:36,390 --> 00:26:34,080
workers um because i mentioned that

794
00:26:38,070 --> 00:26:36,400
a lot of them are volunteers but right

795
00:26:39,350 --> 00:26:38,080
again i'm talking about not the people

796
00:26:40,390 --> 00:26:39,360
that are volunteering for the republican

797
00:26:41,990 --> 00:26:40,400
or democratic party i'm talking about

798
00:26:43,590 --> 00:26:42,000
the actual vote counters

799
00:26:44,870 --> 00:26:43,600
now that's what the reporters kept

800
00:26:46,870 --> 00:26:44,880
saying i don't know if that was true or

801
00:26:48,630 --> 00:26:46,880
not i don't you happen to know in

802
00:26:49,830 --> 00:26:48,640
and i'm sure each state is different

803
00:26:52,310 --> 00:26:49,840
whether these poll workers are

804
00:26:54,950 --> 00:26:52,320
volunteers or they're paid

805
00:26:56,390 --> 00:26:54,960
they're both there are a lot of there

806
00:26:58,470 --> 00:26:56,400
are a lot of people for example i'll

807
00:27:00,789 --> 00:26:58,480
take colorado since i know it very well

808
00:27:03,510 --> 00:27:00,799
i'm very intimate with this state

809
00:27:04,630 --> 00:27:03,520
in colorado the judges are typically

810
00:27:06,630 --> 00:27:04,640
paid

811
00:27:08,470 --> 00:27:06,640
by the local county you know every

812
00:27:10,310 --> 00:27:08,480
election is really a county election in

813
00:27:11,510 --> 00:27:10,320
the united states there are 3 000

814
00:27:13,110 --> 00:27:11,520
counties

815
00:27:15,590 --> 00:27:13,120
and each county you know we don't have a

816
00:27:17,590 --> 00:27:15,600
national election that everybody votes

817
00:27:20,070 --> 00:27:17,600
for president and it's all run by the

818
00:27:23,510 --> 00:27:20,080
federal government it's run by counties

819
00:27:25,909 --> 00:27:23,520
and in accounting uh they normally

820
00:27:27,669 --> 00:27:25,919
pay the judges and they'll have

821
00:27:31,110 --> 00:27:27,679
republican judges

822
00:27:34,149 --> 00:27:31,120
and democrat governor uh judges or paid

823
00:27:36,630 --> 00:27:34,159
a fee fifty dollars to work a day or a

824
00:27:38,549 --> 00:27:36,640
hundred dollars whatever the amount is

825
00:27:39,830 --> 00:27:38,559
and then and they are the principal

826
00:27:42,389 --> 00:27:39,840
counters and they

827
00:27:44,070 --> 00:27:42,399
they watch everything very closely and

828
00:27:45,190 --> 00:27:44,080
they're trained by their parties to do

829
00:27:46,710 --> 00:27:45,200
the job

830
00:27:48,950 --> 00:27:46,720
and they're also trained by the county

831
00:27:49,909 --> 00:27:48,960
to follow the state laws and the county

832
00:27:52,310 --> 00:27:49,919
laws

833
00:27:54,630 --> 00:27:52,320
okay then in addition they have poll

834
00:27:54,950 --> 00:27:54,640
watchers and poll watchers the judges

835
00:27:57,430 --> 00:27:54,960
and

836
00:27:59,110 --> 00:27:57,440
election judges are normally paid poll

837
00:28:01,909 --> 00:27:59,120
watchers are normally

838
00:28:02,950 --> 00:28:01,919
free they're volunteers they care they

839
00:28:05,590 --> 00:28:02,960
want to help

840
00:28:07,830 --> 00:28:05,600
uh but it's you know they may only have

841
00:28:09,510 --> 00:28:07,840
three hours they don't have 12 hours

842
00:28:11,110 --> 00:28:09,520
so and sorry i'm sorry to interrupt are

843
00:28:12,470 --> 00:28:11,120
you saying that the judges are

844
00:28:14,310 --> 00:28:12,480
either republican or democrat they

845
00:28:16,630 --> 00:28:14,320
always make sure there's one of each

846
00:28:17,990 --> 00:28:16,640
yes normally yeah how else can it be

847
00:28:20,310 --> 00:28:18,000
fair

848
00:28:22,710 --> 00:28:20,320
yeah well i mean you would think it's it

849
00:28:24,230 --> 00:28:22,720
should be a non-partisan a political

850
00:28:25,350 --> 00:28:24,240
position we're supposed to just have

851
00:28:28,710 --> 00:28:25,360
blinders on and do

852
00:28:32,630 --> 00:28:28,720
vote counting not be able for not

853
00:28:37,909 --> 00:28:36,230
of a county clerk or secretary of state

854
00:28:39,909 --> 00:28:37,919
the full-time employees are supposed to

855
00:28:40,310 --> 00:28:39,919
be nonpartisan there's no guarantee

856
00:28:44,310 --> 00:28:40,320
there

857
00:28:47,110 --> 00:28:44,320
for political reasons

858
00:28:47,510 --> 00:28:47,120
and uh some would lean one way or the

859
00:28:48,870 --> 00:28:47,520
other

860
00:28:50,789 --> 00:28:48,880
they're supposed to be objective no

861
00:28:52,470 --> 00:28:50,799
matter what by law

862
00:28:54,389 --> 00:28:52,480
and that but the judges are normally

863
00:28:57,110 --> 00:28:54,399
partisan and usually

864
00:28:58,310 --> 00:28:57,120
equal representation if you don't see

865
00:29:01,590 --> 00:28:58,320
equal representation

866
00:29:02,389 --> 00:29:01,600
that's a problem so uh have you followed

867
00:29:05,269 --> 00:29:02,399
the story

868
00:29:07,190 --> 00:29:05,279
about mark zuckerberg and his 400

869
00:29:09,510 --> 00:29:07,200
million dollars that he

870
00:29:11,750 --> 00:29:09,520
uh yeah i'm a little familiar with it

871
00:29:13,269 --> 00:29:11,760
not an expert on it

872
00:29:16,310 --> 00:29:13,279
i thought i would thought it was pretty

873
00:29:19,269 --> 00:29:16,320
fascinating so basically under

874
00:29:19,990 --> 00:29:19,279
the the covid uh stimulus i forget what

875
00:29:23,590 --> 00:29:20,000
that was

876
00:29:26,789 --> 00:29:23,600
called but there was money allocated

877
00:29:28,470 --> 00:29:26,799
to help the vote count i presume because

878
00:29:29,990 --> 00:29:28,480
they were anticipating we were going to

879
00:29:31,909 --> 00:29:30,000
have a lot more mail-in due to

880
00:29:33,430 --> 00:29:31,919
covet and states were going to need more

881
00:29:35,269 --> 00:29:33,440
support so i think it was about 400

882
00:29:37,110 --> 00:29:35,279
million dollars that was allocated

883
00:29:39,029 --> 00:29:37,120
to the states to help with vote counting

884
00:29:41,590 --> 00:29:39,039
in the stimulus package

885
00:29:42,789 --> 00:29:41,600
and then zuckerberg decides that well

886
00:29:45,190 --> 00:29:42,799
that's not

887
00:29:46,630 --> 00:29:45,200
enough you know probably the democrats

888
00:29:46,950 --> 00:29:46,640
had thought a lot more money needed to

889
00:29:50,549 --> 00:29:46,960
be

890
00:29:53,590 --> 00:29:50,559
and says well you know the vote count is

891
00:29:56,389 --> 00:29:53,600
sacred and so important and so i'm going

892
00:30:00,230 --> 00:29:56,399
to contribute 400 million dollars

893
00:30:02,070 --> 00:30:00,240
to this entity um which maybe you know

894
00:30:03,590 --> 00:30:02,080
the name of i could um

895
00:30:05,110 --> 00:30:03,600
dig it up if we need to i forget the

896
00:30:06,710 --> 00:30:05,120
name of any but when you look up this

897
00:30:07,669 --> 00:30:06,720
entity that he gave the 400 million

898
00:30:10,549 --> 00:30:07,679
dollars to

899
00:30:12,950 --> 00:30:10,559
that's going to help the vote count

900
00:30:16,230 --> 00:30:12,960
around the country it's a progressive

901
00:30:19,830 --> 00:30:16,240
obama you know uh

902
00:30:22,070 --> 00:30:19,840
official run organization so it's clear

903
00:30:23,669 --> 00:30:22,080
that this organization their intention

904
00:30:25,909 --> 00:30:23,679
is to make sure

905
00:30:27,430 --> 00:30:25,919
that we get votes counted in the places

906
00:30:30,549 --> 00:30:27,440
that we need votes

907
00:30:32,070 --> 00:30:30,559
counted in um so i i don't know if

908
00:30:33,350 --> 00:30:32,080
you've looked into that much or

909
00:30:35,110 --> 00:30:33,360
what you know i don't know if there's

910
00:30:37,190 --> 00:30:35,120
anything fraudulent

911
00:30:38,870 --> 00:30:37,200
i think that the places where he

912
00:30:39,830 --> 00:30:38,880
supported them i think they voted for

913
00:30:41,510 --> 00:30:39,840
biden

914
00:30:44,310 --> 00:30:41,520
but then i think he picked places that

915
00:30:47,750 --> 00:30:44,320
were probably democrat to start with

916
00:30:49,909 --> 00:30:47,760
sure i mean that would be the way to um

917
00:30:51,909 --> 00:30:49,919
affect the election is you know it's

918
00:30:53,830 --> 00:30:51,919
it's all part of get out the vote

919
00:30:55,430 --> 00:30:53,840
right yeah actually what i think a lot

920
00:30:56,389 --> 00:30:55,440
of people don't realize too is that

921
00:30:59,269 --> 00:30:56,399
google

922
00:31:01,909 --> 00:30:59,279
facebook youtube twitter really made

923
00:31:03,430 --> 00:31:01,919
huge in-kind contributions to the biden

924
00:31:05,509 --> 00:31:03,440
campaign just by

925
00:31:06,630 --> 00:31:05,519
basically suppressing any news that was

926
00:31:09,669 --> 00:31:06,640
negative

927
00:31:12,230 --> 00:31:09,679
on him and uh or suppressing

928
00:31:14,230 --> 00:31:12,240
people knowing negative things about him

929
00:31:15,430 --> 00:31:14,240
but uh playing up anything bad about

930
00:31:17,909 --> 00:31:15,440
trump and also

931
00:31:19,509 --> 00:31:17,919
uh shutting down trump you know trump's

932
00:31:20,710 --> 00:31:19,519
vehicle for communicating with the

933
00:31:22,470 --> 00:31:20,720
american people

934
00:31:24,630 --> 00:31:22,480
whether people liked it or not was

935
00:31:27,190 --> 00:31:24,640
twitter and when they started

936
00:31:27,909 --> 00:31:27,200
you know cutting every tweet down or

937
00:31:30,070 --> 00:31:27,919
saying

938
00:31:32,149 --> 00:31:30,080
uh that's false information that was

939
00:31:34,470 --> 00:31:32,159
really an in-kind contribution

940
00:31:37,029 --> 00:31:34,480
and i'm against censorship of any kind

941
00:31:40,149 --> 00:31:37,039
i'm a first amendment guy

942
00:31:43,669 --> 00:31:40,159
and i do not think anybody should censor

943
00:31:44,310 --> 00:31:43,679
uh people's political opinions well 100

944
00:31:46,470 --> 00:31:44,320
percent

945
00:31:47,909 --> 00:31:46,480
agree that's the whole reason that

946
00:31:50,950 --> 00:31:47,919
they've got the exemption

947
00:31:52,070 --> 00:31:50,960
from defamation suits is to allow it to

948
00:31:54,710 --> 00:31:52,080
be an open platform

949
00:31:55,830 --> 00:31:54,720
to say whatever the heck you want and

950
00:31:57,590 --> 00:31:55,840
but instead

951
00:32:00,710 --> 00:31:57,600
we're in this election instead they're

952
00:32:02,149 --> 00:32:00,720
editing and censoring and

953
00:32:04,470 --> 00:32:02,159
that puts you in the role now as a

954
00:32:06,789 --> 00:32:04,480
publisher and should change

955
00:32:07,830 --> 00:32:06,799
whether they can be sued for defamation

956
00:32:11,029 --> 00:32:07,840
or not

957
00:32:14,549 --> 00:32:11,039
yeah so you know when they do that

958
00:32:18,230 --> 00:32:14,559
about for example uh back in the

959
00:32:20,070 --> 00:32:18,240
heyday of covid and what drugs you

960
00:32:21,590 --> 00:32:20,080
should use or don't use and they wanted

961
00:32:23,669 --> 00:32:21,600
to censor

962
00:32:25,750 --> 00:32:23,679
doctors that put them in the business of

963
00:32:27,110 --> 00:32:25,760
giving medical advice to their

964
00:32:28,789 --> 00:32:27,120
listeners i would think that's a

965
00:32:31,990 --> 00:32:28,799
liability in itself

966
00:32:32,310 --> 00:32:32,000
to say oh don't use that hydroxychloride

967
00:32:41,110 --> 00:32:32,320
or

968
00:32:42,630 --> 00:32:41,120
oh and there's trust me there's we've

969
00:32:43,830 --> 00:32:42,640
done an episode or two on that there's

970
00:32:46,070 --> 00:32:43,840
plenty of doctors

971
00:32:46,870 --> 00:32:46,080
who say that it's absolutely what you

972
00:32:50,310 --> 00:32:46,880
should be taking

973
00:32:50,789 --> 00:32:50,320
sign of anything and if people had been

974
00:32:53,269 --> 00:32:50,799
doing it

975
00:32:54,830 --> 00:32:53,279
with a combination of zinc and if people

976
00:32:56,470 --> 00:32:54,840
had been doing that if the

977
00:32:59,190 --> 00:32:56,480
hospitalization rate would have

978
00:33:00,789 --> 00:32:59,200
gone way down yeah i mean after all a

979
00:33:02,470 --> 00:33:00,799
software engineer supposed to be the

980
00:33:05,750 --> 00:33:02,480
equivalent of medical doctors

981
00:33:08,950 --> 00:33:05,760
specialists uh i think it's utterly

982
00:33:12,230 --> 00:33:08,960
ridiculous that they'd censor anybody

983
00:33:14,230 --> 00:33:12,240
yeah so you know i think one explanation

984
00:33:16,230 --> 00:33:14,240
you know for instance why your modeling

985
00:33:18,070 --> 00:33:16,240
was was off

986
00:33:19,669 --> 00:33:18,080
i don't think my modeling was off well

987
00:33:21,590 --> 00:33:19,679
but you projected a trump victory

988
00:33:22,870 --> 00:33:21,600
and we don't have a trump victory well i

989
00:33:25,430 --> 00:33:22,880
think it still may happen

990
00:33:26,310 --> 00:33:25,440
i know i agree but i'm just saying so

991
00:33:29,430 --> 00:33:26,320
either it was

992
00:33:31,110 --> 00:33:29,440
fraud right which would make your models

993
00:33:33,350 --> 00:33:31,120
wrong because you didn't project fraud

994
00:33:34,549 --> 00:33:33,360
i presume i think we did fraud in my

995
00:33:36,710 --> 00:33:34,559
models but not

996
00:33:39,509 --> 00:33:36,720
much i predict like a little bit like

997
00:33:41,509 --> 00:33:39,519
you said about a thousand here and there

998
00:33:43,029 --> 00:33:41,519
dead people voting i figure there's

999
00:33:43,750 --> 00:33:43,039
always some of that so i put some of

1000
00:33:45,990 --> 00:33:43,760
that in

1001
00:33:47,909 --> 00:33:46,000
but i don't put in hundreds of thousands

1002
00:33:49,190 --> 00:33:47,919
of votes dropping on somebody's lap in

1003
00:33:52,630 --> 00:33:49,200
the middle of the night right

1004
00:33:54,549 --> 00:33:52,640
so i'm just proposing that that

1005
00:33:55,990 --> 00:33:54,559
the reason the numbers don't match your

1006
00:33:59,750 --> 00:33:56,000
numbers okay

1007
00:34:01,990 --> 00:33:59,760
could either be widespread fraud or

1008
00:34:02,870 --> 00:34:02,000
i'm gonna ask this as a question it

1009
00:34:05,029 --> 00:34:02,880
could be

1010
00:34:06,470 --> 00:34:05,039
people like zuckerberg and and i'm sure

1011
00:34:07,669 --> 00:34:06,480
these are not the only dollars there's

1012
00:34:09,349 --> 00:34:07,679
probably hundreds of other millions of

1013
00:34:11,589 --> 00:34:09,359
dollars that i'm not aware of but

1014
00:34:13,270 --> 00:34:11,599
zuckerberg's 400 million which is

1015
00:34:15,430 --> 00:34:13,280
basically

1016
00:34:17,669 --> 00:34:15,440
essentially get out the vote campaigns i

1017
00:34:19,270 --> 00:34:17,679
mean the percentage of voters supposedly

1018
00:34:22,470 --> 00:34:19,280
in the inner city

1019
00:34:23,190 --> 00:34:22,480
was extremely high like 91 percent i

1020
00:34:25,750 --> 00:34:23,200
read

1021
00:34:26,230 --> 00:34:25,760
somewhere so they were getting out the

1022
00:34:28,790 --> 00:34:26,240
vote

1023
00:34:30,629 --> 00:34:28,800
in the inner cities which is where you

1024
00:34:33,510 --> 00:34:30,639
should focus if you're a democrat

1025
00:34:35,430 --> 00:34:33,520
and perhaps they did an astounding job

1026
00:34:36,869 --> 00:34:35,440
may be so astounding that it borders on

1027
00:34:38,310 --> 00:34:36,879
illegal because there's certain things

1028
00:34:39,589 --> 00:34:38,320
that are allowed and not they call talk

1029
00:34:41,109 --> 00:34:39,599
about ballot harvesting and can you

1030
00:34:42,310 --> 00:34:41,119
knock on doors and help somebody fill

1031
00:34:43,349 --> 00:34:42,320
out their ballot and this or that who

1032
00:34:44,310 --> 00:34:43,359
knows maybe some of the stuff they

1033
00:34:47,430 --> 00:34:44,320
actually did was

1034
00:34:49,190 --> 00:34:47,440
illegal but they had a very concerted

1035
00:34:49,990 --> 00:34:49,200
effort to get out the vote in the inner

1036
00:34:51,750 --> 00:34:50,000
cities

1037
00:34:54,389 --> 00:34:51,760
so did trump trump had a great

1038
00:34:57,510 --> 00:34:54,399
organization biden had no ground

1039
00:34:58,069 --> 00:34:57,520
game whatsoever and we know that trump

1040
00:35:02,310 --> 00:34:58,079
got

1041
00:35:04,630 --> 00:35:02,320
2016 so he managed to get 10 million

1042
00:35:06,390 --> 00:35:04,640
well biden biden himself wasn't out

1043
00:35:07,910 --> 00:35:06,400
there giving speeches but as far as

1044
00:35:10,150 --> 00:35:07,920
ground game i mean

1045
00:35:11,349 --> 00:35:10,160
i i didn't they didn't do door-to-door

1046
00:35:12,790 --> 00:35:11,359
they're people around

1047
00:35:14,550 --> 00:35:12,800
that's what they were so isn't that what

1048
00:35:16,710 --> 00:35:14,560
the democratic party does

1049
00:35:18,550 --> 00:35:16,720
he lost florida because they didn't have

1050
00:35:21,990 --> 00:35:18,560
people getting out the vote

1051
00:35:23,190 --> 00:35:22,000
in florida but i think it's complaining

1052
00:35:25,030 --> 00:35:23,200
i'm quoting them

1053
00:35:26,710 --> 00:35:25,040
is isn't the democratic party though

1054
00:35:29,109 --> 00:35:26,720
notorious for for

1055
00:35:29,750 --> 00:35:29,119
being pretty good at uh you know

1056
00:35:32,870 --> 00:35:29,760
community

1057
00:35:35,670 --> 00:35:32,880
organizing and and knocking on doors and

1058
00:35:37,510 --> 00:35:35,680
barack obama was joe biden isn't but but

1059
00:35:39,829 --> 00:35:37,520
it's the democratic party

1060
00:35:42,069 --> 00:35:39,839
well i'm sorry they just didn't have a

1061
00:35:45,349 --> 00:35:42,079
campaign i think that was a political

1062
00:35:47,349 --> 00:35:45,359
strategy decision they made they did not

1063
00:35:49,589 --> 00:35:47,359
have a good ground game

1064
00:35:50,390 --> 00:35:49,599
and i don't think they did a good job

1065
00:35:52,550 --> 00:35:50,400
and

1066
00:35:54,230 --> 00:35:52,560
some of their alternatives like you said

1067
00:35:55,589 --> 00:35:54,240
zuckerberg some of them may have done

1068
00:35:58,310 --> 00:35:55,599
something to help them

1069
00:36:00,310 --> 00:35:58,320
but his own campaign didn't well i mean

1070
00:36:02,950 --> 00:36:00,320
some of these progressive organizations

1071
00:36:04,470 --> 00:36:02,960
are huge and getting i mean look at the

1072
00:36:07,990 --> 00:36:04,480
money that black lives matter

1073
00:36:09,910 --> 00:36:08,000
gets where'd all that money go

1074
00:36:12,550 --> 00:36:09,920
well i guess that goes into the coffers

1075
00:36:15,670 --> 00:36:12,560
of future rioting

1076
00:36:17,430 --> 00:36:15,680
well it also goes to a lot of democratic

1077
00:36:19,510 --> 00:36:17,440
candidates i think a lot of it was spent

1078
00:36:23,190 --> 00:36:19,520
on political campaigns

1079
00:36:25,589 --> 00:36:23,200
yeah that's possible um and

1080
00:36:26,950 --> 00:36:25,599
you know with the george soros funded

1081
00:36:29,589 --> 00:36:26,960
organizations

1082
00:36:31,589 --> 00:36:29,599
those are significant too yeah in fact

1083
00:36:33,829 --> 00:36:31,599
talk talk about that to extent you

1084
00:36:35,030 --> 00:36:33,839
you know because uh george soros is

1085
00:36:37,109 --> 00:36:35,040
notorious

1086
00:36:38,150 --> 00:36:37,119
my understanding for supporting very

1087
00:36:42,230 --> 00:36:38,160
local

1088
00:36:45,190 --> 00:36:42,240
attorney they want a progressive

1089
00:36:46,710 --> 00:36:45,200
district attorney we got that here in la

1090
00:36:48,390 --> 00:36:46,720
we had a very progressive district

1091
00:36:49,589 --> 00:36:48,400
attorney and she lost to the guy from

1092
00:36:51,750 --> 00:36:49,599
san francisco is even

1093
00:36:52,950 --> 00:36:51,760
more progressive we have a very

1094
00:36:55,349 --> 00:36:52,960
progressive ellie

1095
00:36:55,990 --> 00:36:55,359
city council but one of the city council

1096
00:36:57,510 --> 00:36:56,000
members

1097
00:36:59,510 --> 00:36:57,520
was ousted by another even more

1098
00:37:02,470 --> 00:36:59,520
progressive person

1099
00:37:02,790 --> 00:37:02,480
an incumbent loss which is very rare um

1100
00:37:04,950 --> 00:37:02,800
but

1101
00:37:07,030 --> 00:37:04,960
you know soros money is going a lot of

1102
00:37:09,750 --> 00:37:07,040
these type of campaigns

1103
00:37:11,670 --> 00:37:09,760
yeah that's true i he was going for a

1104
00:37:13,349 --> 00:37:11,680
while for secretaries of state because

1105
00:37:16,390 --> 00:37:13,359
he knew how powerful they were

1106
00:37:17,430 --> 00:37:16,400
influencing election results and he also

1107
00:37:20,710 --> 00:37:17,440
for a while

1108
00:37:23,349 --> 00:37:20,720
including local more recently

1109
00:37:25,670 --> 00:37:23,359
uh for d.a you know district attorneys

1110
00:37:26,710 --> 00:37:25,680
because he wanted progressive da's those

1111
00:37:29,589 --> 00:37:26,720
are people who

1112
00:37:31,109 --> 00:37:29,599
wanted bail reform eliminate bail uh

1113
00:37:33,349 --> 00:37:31,119
they're talking about eliminating

1114
00:37:33,750 --> 00:37:33,359
misdemeanors in some locations where

1115
00:37:35,670 --> 00:37:33,760
they

1116
00:37:37,589 --> 00:37:35,680
you can't commit a misdemeanor that's

1117
00:37:39,670 --> 00:37:37,599
going to create a lot of havoc and a lot

1118
00:37:42,790 --> 00:37:39,680
of problems when you eliminate

1119
00:37:46,710 --> 00:37:42,800
um essentially law and order yeah

1120
00:37:49,990 --> 00:37:46,720
and it also i think they also were

1121
00:37:52,630 --> 00:37:50,000
decided for example in portland uh

1122
00:37:54,390 --> 00:37:52,640
not to you know not to go ahead and

1123
00:37:57,430 --> 00:37:54,400
pursue certain crimes

1124
00:37:59,030 --> 00:37:57,440
the fellow who was killed uh

1125
00:38:00,950 --> 00:37:59,040
i think he was in a shoot off with the

1126
00:38:04,230 --> 00:38:00,960
police who were trying to catch him

1127
00:38:05,990 --> 00:38:04,240
after he had hurt someone else uh

1128
00:38:07,750 --> 00:38:06,000
he had been arrested and they didn't

1129
00:38:08,470 --> 00:38:07,760
charge him with anything so he got let

1130
00:38:10,630 --> 00:38:08,480
out

1131
00:38:12,150 --> 00:38:10,640
and i think it was on a gun charge and

1132
00:38:14,150 --> 00:38:12,160
he eventually wound up i think

1133
00:38:15,349 --> 00:38:14,160
shooting someone killing them a trump

1134
00:38:16,790 --> 00:38:15,359
supporter

1135
00:38:18,470 --> 00:38:16,800
and that crime could have been committed

1136
00:38:19,030 --> 00:38:18,480
had they kept them in jail the first

1137
00:38:20,630 --> 00:38:19,040
time

1138
00:38:23,030 --> 00:38:20,640
instead they just didn't pursue any

1139
00:38:25,670 --> 00:38:23,040
charges so these uh

1140
00:38:26,390 --> 00:38:25,680
liberal district attorneys i should say

1141
00:38:29,510 --> 00:38:26,400
socialist

1142
00:38:30,550 --> 00:38:29,520
i think that fits them better um that's

1143
00:38:32,870 --> 00:38:30,560
something that

1144
00:38:33,990 --> 00:38:32,880
george soros and his various funded

1145
00:38:37,030 --> 00:38:34,000
organizations

1146
00:38:39,190 --> 00:38:37,040
seem to pursue and

1147
00:38:40,790 --> 00:38:39,200
have a lot of money also i might add

1148
00:38:42,310 --> 00:38:40,800
there's enormous amount of money that's

1149
00:38:44,150 --> 00:38:42,320
gone into act blue

1150
00:38:45,430 --> 00:38:44,160
which is suspicious money from my

1151
00:38:47,190 --> 00:38:45,440
perspective because

1152
00:38:49,270 --> 00:38:47,200
a lot of people list themselves who

1153
00:38:50,230 --> 00:38:49,280
donate money to act blue as not having

1154
00:38:52,790 --> 00:38:50,240
any jobs

1155
00:38:54,230 --> 00:38:52,800
so a lot of unemployed money uh

1156
00:38:57,349 --> 00:38:54,240
unemployed people

1157
00:38:59,430 --> 00:38:57,359
are donating to act blue which is money

1158
00:39:00,069 --> 00:38:59,440
that goes to democrat candidates and we

1159
00:39:03,270 --> 00:39:00,079
had

1160
00:39:04,150 --> 00:39:03,280
three senate candidates where the

1161
00:39:05,990 --> 00:39:04,160
democrats

1162
00:39:08,069 --> 00:39:06,000
raised a hundred million dollars and

1163
00:39:10,550 --> 00:39:08,079
each one of them by the way lost

1164
00:39:12,390 --> 00:39:10,560
and i have a theory that you can't buy

1165
00:39:15,030 --> 00:39:12,400
an election in america people

1166
00:39:17,030 --> 00:39:15,040
wisely often know a whole lot of money

1167
00:39:19,430 --> 00:39:17,040
is coming from outside

1168
00:39:20,790 --> 00:39:19,440
uh to influence elections and i think

1169
00:39:23,109 --> 00:39:20,800
that's what happened with those three

1170
00:39:25,349 --> 00:39:23,119
senate races one was lindsey graham

1171
00:39:26,550 --> 00:39:25,359
he had 109 million dollars brought in

1172
00:39:28,550 --> 00:39:26,560
against him

1173
00:39:29,990 --> 00:39:28,560
yeah yeah act blue was the organization

1174
00:39:32,230 --> 00:39:30,000
i was thinking of that's uh

1175
00:39:33,349 --> 00:39:32,240
my unchanged where uh where most of the

1176
00:39:36,550 --> 00:39:33,359
black lives matter

1177
00:39:38,950 --> 00:39:36,560
money goes is to act blue and

1178
00:39:39,750 --> 00:39:38,960
so so yeah apparently if you click on

1179
00:39:41,589 --> 00:39:39,760
donate on

1180
00:39:43,190 --> 00:39:41,599
black lives matter people could confirm

1181
00:39:43,829 --> 00:39:43,200
this it's taking you to that blue

1182
00:39:46,230 --> 00:39:43,839
website

1183
00:39:47,589 --> 00:39:46,240
so tell me what what is act blue how

1184
00:39:48,950 --> 00:39:47,599
long has this thing been around if you

1185
00:39:50,870 --> 00:39:48,960
know and who's

1186
00:39:52,950 --> 00:39:50,880
the organizer of that thing oh i don't

1187
00:39:54,790 --> 00:39:52,960
have a history of it i spend my time on

1188
00:39:59,109 --> 00:39:54,800
elections not on people

1189
00:40:01,990 --> 00:39:59,119
funding it uh there there's uh

1190
00:40:02,710 --> 00:40:02,000
an organization called act blue that

1191
00:40:06,470 --> 00:40:02,720
basically

1192
00:40:09,910 --> 00:40:06,480
is a opportunity for people to donate

1193
00:40:11,589 --> 00:40:09,920
uh to blue causes and they apparently

1194
00:40:12,309 --> 00:40:11,599
distribute the money i don't know how

1195
00:40:13,910 --> 00:40:12,319
they do it

1196
00:40:15,589 --> 00:40:13,920
i'm not sure how they you know if they

1197
00:40:17,349 --> 00:40:15,599
get 100 million one year i don't know

1198
00:40:20,150 --> 00:40:17,359
how they divide it up

1199
00:40:22,150 --> 00:40:20,160
basically a big democratic pack yeah

1200
00:40:23,910 --> 00:40:22,160
that's kind of what it is

1201
00:40:26,150 --> 00:40:23,920
and you know back to that back to money

1202
00:40:28,550 --> 00:40:26,160
influencing elections i i tend to

1203
00:40:29,910 --> 00:40:28,560
agree with you however the exception to

1204
00:40:32,309 --> 00:40:29,920
that might be

1205
00:40:33,910 --> 00:40:32,319
these smaller elections where nobody

1206
00:40:34,870 --> 00:40:33,920
knows who the heck these two people are

1207
00:40:37,030 --> 00:40:34,880
anyway

1208
00:40:38,390 --> 00:40:37,040
so the only way they really are able to

1209
00:40:40,069 --> 00:40:38,400
distinguish themselves if they're able

1210
00:40:41,829 --> 00:40:40,079
to spend enough money to build up name

1211
00:40:45,510 --> 00:40:41,839
recognition and that might be why you

1212
00:40:48,630 --> 00:40:45,520
know in part by soros focuses on those

1213
00:40:50,710 --> 00:40:48,640
yeah well that's possible he has won a

1214
00:40:52,390 --> 00:40:50,720
number of da's he's supported have won

1215
00:40:54,550 --> 00:40:52,400
over the years

1216
00:40:55,910 --> 00:40:54,560
so just to wrap up on on the election

1217
00:40:57,750 --> 00:40:55,920
numbers um

1218
00:40:59,349 --> 00:40:57,760
and then we'll talk about the future a

1219
00:41:01,430 --> 00:40:59,359
little bit um

1220
00:41:03,430 --> 00:41:01,440
you talk about your modeling and so on

1221
00:41:05,829 --> 00:41:03,440
so

1222
00:41:08,390 --> 00:41:05,839
these are very rough numbers but it

1223
00:41:11,510 --> 00:41:08,400
looks like around 160 million

1224
00:41:14,870 --> 00:41:11,520
votes were cast and 100 million of them

1225
00:41:15,990 --> 00:41:14,880
were mailing compared to four years

1226
00:41:19,430 --> 00:41:16,000
earlier

1227
00:41:21,750 --> 00:41:19,440
uh just 33 million mail-in ballots

1228
00:41:22,790 --> 00:41:21,760
so you have three times as many mail-in

1229
00:41:26,069 --> 00:41:22,800
ballots

1230
00:41:29,349 --> 00:41:26,079
and they went big-time for biden

1231
00:41:30,550 --> 00:41:29,359
so that's a pretty good explanation

1232
00:41:32,069 --> 00:41:30,560
right there now there's could be

1233
00:41:33,510 --> 00:41:32,079
fraudulent ballots we'll find out but

1234
00:41:35,750 --> 00:41:33,520
when you were modeling this were you

1235
00:41:39,109 --> 00:41:35,760
expecting that many mail-in ballots

1236
00:41:42,150 --> 00:41:39,119
three times more than four years ago

1237
00:41:44,309 --> 00:41:42,160
i don't uh i don't distinguish between

1238
00:41:47,829 --> 00:41:44,319
how a vote gets voted

1239
00:41:51,829 --> 00:41:47,839
so i did not model for mail-in versus

1240
00:41:54,790 --> 00:41:51,839
in-person versus drop-off or any other

1241
00:41:56,470 --> 00:41:54,800
way of voting my attempt is to

1242
00:41:57,190 --> 00:41:56,480
understand how many people are in a

1243
00:41:59,589 --> 00:41:57,200
state

1244
00:42:01,430 --> 00:41:59,599
and how they are leaning what trends are

1245
00:42:03,270 --> 00:42:01,440
driving them that sort of thing

1246
00:42:04,950 --> 00:42:03,280
but i look at other kinds of numbers

1247
00:42:07,670 --> 00:42:04,960
than the mechanism

1248
00:42:09,510 --> 00:42:07,680
they bought so now that so so now it can

1249
00:42:11,750 --> 00:42:09,520
be variable to look at

1250
00:42:13,829 --> 00:42:11,760
huh sorry it could be a new variable i

1251
00:42:15,430 --> 00:42:13,839
should look at in the future

1252
00:42:17,589 --> 00:42:15,440
yeah it seems like there's been a

1253
00:42:19,030 --> 00:42:17,599
variable of significance

1254
00:42:20,630 --> 00:42:19,040
i mean the last thing by this way if

1255
00:42:23,510 --> 00:42:20,640
it's harder

1256
00:42:24,870 --> 00:42:23,520
let's just you know i i don't i don't

1257
00:42:25,829 --> 00:42:24,880
know if this is true or not but it could

1258
00:42:29,349 --> 00:42:25,839
be true

1259
00:42:31,349 --> 00:42:29,359
if it's harder for let's say poor people

1260
00:42:32,630 --> 00:42:31,359
to get to the polls let's say they got

1261
00:42:36,550 --> 00:42:32,640
to take a bus

1262
00:42:39,109 --> 00:42:36,560
to get there which is no fun so

1263
00:42:40,630 --> 00:42:39,119
you know so but now the ballot's sitting

1264
00:42:42,150 --> 00:42:40,640
in their house

1265
00:42:44,470 --> 00:42:42,160
and all they got to do is fill it out in

1266
00:42:47,990 --> 00:42:44,480
their house maybe mail-in balloting

1267
00:42:49,670 --> 00:42:48,000
ends up getting more democrat votes

1268
00:42:51,109 --> 00:42:49,680
or maybe we should go back to the way it

1269
00:42:54,150 --> 00:42:51,119
was where you had

1270
00:42:56,390 --> 00:42:54,160
uh balloting in each individual precinct

1271
00:42:57,750 --> 00:42:56,400
so like you walked down the block to

1272
00:42:59,829 --> 00:42:57,760
your neighbor's house and they had a

1273
00:43:01,589 --> 00:42:59,839
precinct office you know not a precinct

1274
00:43:02,230 --> 00:43:01,599
office but they used their precinct for

1275
00:43:04,550 --> 00:43:02,240
voting

1276
00:43:05,670 --> 00:43:04,560
or sometimes it was a school elementary

1277
00:43:07,589 --> 00:43:05,680
school

1278
00:43:09,829 --> 00:43:07,599
or sometimes it was a church in the

1279
00:43:13,109 --> 00:43:09,839
neighborhood used to be we had

1280
00:43:14,950 --> 00:43:13,119
voting places in each precinct we no

1281
00:43:16,230 --> 00:43:14,960
longer have that that's been eliminated

1282
00:43:19,109 --> 00:43:16,240
that's one of the

1283
00:43:20,950 --> 00:43:19,119
many so-called reforms it must be a

1284
00:43:21,589 --> 00:43:20,960
colorado thing because we still have

1285
00:43:24,390 --> 00:43:21,599
them

1286
00:43:25,270 --> 00:43:24,400
here i mean my local voting place is a

1287
00:43:28,390 --> 00:43:25,280
local church

1288
00:43:30,870 --> 00:43:28,400
that's about

1289
00:43:32,150 --> 00:43:30,880
a half mile away well i think it depends

1290
00:43:35,750 --> 00:43:32,160
by state

1291
00:43:37,510 --> 00:43:35,760
and that in a way since i'm not as

1292
00:43:38,150 --> 00:43:37,520
familiar with california i don't live

1293
00:43:40,069 --> 00:43:38,160
there

1294
00:43:42,870 --> 00:43:40,079
it surprises me given all your other

1295
00:43:45,349 --> 00:43:42,880
reforms that you even bother with

1296
00:43:47,030 --> 00:43:45,359
voting in a church well and that's you

1297
00:43:47,990 --> 00:43:47,040
know as we look forward in the future

1298
00:43:50,630 --> 00:43:48,000
elections

1299
00:43:52,630 --> 00:43:50,640
this is probably going to this is not

1300
00:43:54,710 --> 00:43:52,640
going to change if anything mail-in

1301
00:43:56,470 --> 00:43:54,720
uh voting is probably going to increase

1302
00:43:57,990 --> 00:43:56,480
right all these states that implement it

1303
00:44:01,589 --> 00:43:58,000
implemented it for the first time due to

1304
00:44:05,109 --> 00:44:01,599
covid are probably going to keep it

1305
00:44:06,390 --> 00:44:05,119
that could be very well and if it helps

1306
00:44:08,230 --> 00:44:06,400
democrats to win

1307
00:44:09,430 --> 00:44:08,240
i'm sure that they would prefer to keep

1308
00:44:10,630 --> 00:44:09,440
it that way the ones who are running

1309
00:44:11,910 --> 00:44:10,640
those places

1310
00:44:14,309 --> 00:44:11,920
yeah i mean it was again it was

1311
00:44:16,950 --> 00:44:14,319
astounding percentage-wise how heavy

1312
00:44:18,550 --> 00:44:16,960
it was for biden assuming it's

1313
00:44:20,550 --> 00:44:18,560
legitimate a lot of people think that

1314
00:44:22,710 --> 00:44:20,560
it's because well these

1315
00:44:24,150 --> 00:44:22,720
democrats tend to fear covid more than

1316
00:44:26,069 --> 00:44:24,160
republicans perhaps because they watch

1317
00:44:28,790 --> 00:44:26,079
cnn instead of fox

1318
00:44:29,829 --> 00:44:28,800
and and so they didn't want to go to the

1319
00:44:31,190 --> 00:44:29,839
polls

1320
00:44:33,190 --> 00:44:31,200
even though they go to the grocery store

1321
00:44:34,950 --> 00:44:33,200
no problem but they didn't want to stand

1322
00:44:38,309 --> 00:44:34,960
six feet behind somebody

1323
00:44:41,670 --> 00:44:38,319
wearing a mask to go vote um and so

1324
00:44:44,309 --> 00:44:41,680
that's what that explains the more biden

1325
00:44:44,950 --> 00:44:44,319
mail-in votes let me ask you a question

1326
00:44:47,270 --> 00:44:44,960
can you

1327
00:44:48,870 --> 00:44:47,280
you actually can vote in a church even

1328
00:44:50,790 --> 00:44:48,880
though i thought churches were sort of

1329
00:44:52,870 --> 00:44:50,800
like persona non grata with

1330
00:44:54,950 --> 00:44:52,880
governor newsom in other words people

1331
00:44:57,109 --> 00:44:54,960
weren't allowed to go to church

1332
00:44:58,309 --> 00:44:57,119
worship are you allowed to go to church

1333
00:45:02,550 --> 00:44:58,319
to vote

1334
00:45:05,829 --> 00:45:02,560
well uh i i did i did mail in this year

1335
00:45:09,510 --> 00:45:05,839
but yes it it's actually a christian

1336
00:45:12,710 --> 00:45:09,520
um elementary school that

1337
00:45:14,630 --> 00:45:12,720
um is where i voted in in the past and

1338
00:45:17,990 --> 00:45:14,640
um you walk into

1339
00:45:18,790 --> 00:45:18,000
some room there and and vote but uh yeah

1340
00:45:20,230 --> 00:45:18,800
you would think that'd be very

1341
00:45:21,030 --> 00:45:20,240
controversial in california right that

1342
00:45:23,349 --> 00:45:21,040
for you

1343
00:45:24,069 --> 00:45:23,359
yeah christian christian's cool to to

1344
00:45:26,630 --> 00:45:24,079
vote in

1345
00:45:28,630 --> 00:45:26,640
so you're very concerned about the rise

1346
00:45:32,069 --> 00:45:28,640
of socialism in america

1347
00:45:33,589 --> 00:45:32,079
as am i uh totally antithetical to what

1348
00:45:35,349 --> 00:45:33,599
america is all about

1349
00:45:36,870 --> 00:45:35,359
that's why i'm just like you know when

1350
00:45:38,230 --> 00:45:36,880
bernie sanders almost beats hillary

1351
00:45:40,790 --> 00:45:38,240
clinton i'm thinking to myself

1352
00:45:42,390 --> 00:45:40,800
man what are people learning how could

1353
00:45:44,309 --> 00:45:42,400
you vote for a socialist if you're an

1354
00:45:47,670 --> 00:45:44,319
american it's just

1355
00:45:49,990 --> 00:45:47,680
the two just don't go together um

1356
00:45:51,829 --> 00:45:50,000
but what do you see assuming the

1357
00:45:54,630 --> 00:45:51,839
republicans keep the senate

1358
00:45:56,550 --> 00:45:54,640
so some balance is held there assuming

1359
00:45:58,550 --> 00:45:56,560
they keep the senate

1360
00:45:59,990 --> 00:45:58,560
what do you what are you still concerned

1361
00:46:02,309 --> 00:46:00,000
that biden will do

1362
00:46:03,589 --> 00:46:02,319
to move this country in a socialist

1363
00:46:06,309 --> 00:46:03,599
direction

1364
00:46:07,910 --> 00:46:06,319
well i think he uh he got his support

1365
00:46:10,870 --> 00:46:07,920
from the progressives

1366
00:46:12,870 --> 00:46:10,880
i think he's being pressured by aoc and

1367
00:46:15,670 --> 00:46:12,880
elizabeth warren and others

1368
00:46:17,510 --> 00:46:15,680
to follow progressive and by the way the

1369
00:46:18,150 --> 00:46:17,520
word progressive let's call spade a

1370
00:46:19,750 --> 00:46:18,160
spade

1371
00:46:21,750 --> 00:46:19,760
the word progressive means progress

1372
00:46:22,710 --> 00:46:21,760
towards socialism that's what they're

1373
00:46:24,950 --> 00:46:22,720
after

1374
00:46:26,950 --> 00:46:24,960
and the goal is ultimately socialism

1375
00:46:29,190 --> 00:46:26,960
that means things like

1376
00:46:30,950 --> 00:46:29,200
government controlled medical care

1377
00:46:34,230 --> 00:46:30,960
medical care for all

1378
00:46:35,510 --> 00:46:34,240
it means you know free cell phones free

1379
00:46:38,390 --> 00:46:35,520
everything

1380
00:46:40,069 --> 00:46:38,400
free child care guaranteed income for

1381
00:46:42,230 --> 00:46:40,079
everybody regardless of whether or not

1382
00:46:43,670 --> 00:46:42,240
they choose to work uh

1383
00:46:45,670 --> 00:46:43,680
it's it's sort of guaranteed yeah

1384
00:46:49,270 --> 00:46:45,680
guaranteed housing yeah

1385
00:46:51,109 --> 00:46:49,280
guaranteed guaranteed jobs everything

1386
00:46:53,190 --> 00:46:51,119
government takes care of everything

1387
00:46:54,390 --> 00:46:53,200
right and by the way that's precisely

1388
00:46:56,870 --> 00:46:54,400
the program

1389
00:46:57,510 --> 00:46:56,880
that democrat socialist hugo chavez

1390
00:47:00,550 --> 00:46:57,520
promised

1391
00:47:02,390 --> 00:47:00,560
the venezuelan people and remember that

1392
00:47:04,470 --> 00:47:02,400
was 1998

1393
00:47:06,550 --> 00:47:04,480
and at that time venezuela was probably

1394
00:47:09,910 --> 00:47:06,560
the richest nation

1395
00:47:12,470 --> 00:47:09,920
in best economy in south america is now

1396
00:47:14,630 --> 00:47:12,480
a poverty stricken basket case

1397
00:47:15,910 --> 00:47:14,640
because hugo chavez promised everything

1398
00:47:18,069 --> 00:47:15,920
to everybody

1399
00:47:20,230 --> 00:47:18,079
and they thought it sounded great you

1400
00:47:22,390 --> 00:47:20,240
know all this stuff for free

1401
00:47:24,309 --> 00:47:22,400
and he nationalized the industries he

1402
00:47:25,910 --> 00:47:24,319
socialized everything

1403
00:47:27,510 --> 00:47:25,920
and he wound up turning them into

1404
00:47:29,750 --> 00:47:27,520
bankruptcy they can't even produce

1405
00:47:32,309 --> 00:47:29,760
enough food for themselves they can't

1406
00:47:34,470 --> 00:47:32,319
provide their for their own needs and i

1407
00:47:37,829 --> 00:47:34,480
think that's what would happen here too

1408
00:47:39,270 --> 00:47:37,839
and i just hope that it'd be enough

1409
00:47:41,990 --> 00:47:39,280
sense in the senate

1410
00:47:42,390 --> 00:47:42,000
to uh not go along with it because i

1411
00:47:46,630 --> 00:47:42,400
think

1412
00:47:47,750 --> 00:47:46,640
uh my book uh i studied socialism i have

1413
00:47:49,990 --> 00:47:47,760
behind me

1414
00:47:51,589 --> 00:47:50,000
uh this is part of my library you can

1415
00:47:53,510 --> 00:47:51,599
see part of it here

1416
00:47:54,790 --> 00:47:53,520
uh i have an enormous library on

1417
00:47:57,109 --> 00:47:54,800
socialism

1418
00:47:58,950 --> 00:47:57,119
and my knowledge of it and i think i

1419
00:48:01,349 --> 00:47:58,960
captured it well in the book

1420
00:48:02,150 --> 00:48:01,359
is that every socialist experiment has

1421
00:48:04,150 --> 00:48:02,160
failed

1422
00:48:05,750 --> 00:48:04,160
you can mention any one you want

1423
00:48:09,190 --> 00:48:05,760
including the

1424
00:48:12,630 --> 00:48:09,200
the ones that temporarily uh uh

1425
00:48:14,230 --> 00:48:12,640
paraded as a socialist in the swedish

1426
00:48:16,950 --> 00:48:14,240
countries denmark those kind of

1427
00:48:19,670 --> 00:48:16,960
countries they've all failed

1428
00:48:21,190 --> 00:48:19,680
and uh they all wind up not only

1429
00:48:24,549 --> 00:48:21,200
corrupting their economy

1430
00:48:26,549 --> 00:48:24,559
but corrupting uh the morality

1431
00:48:29,109 --> 00:48:26,559
you always get moral and economic

1432
00:48:31,190 --> 00:48:29,119
bankruptcy from socialism over the years

1433
00:48:33,670 --> 00:48:31,200
that it has been tried

1434
00:48:35,349 --> 00:48:33,680
what do you say to people such as i

1435
00:48:38,790 --> 00:48:35,359
think bernie sanders who says well

1436
00:48:42,630 --> 00:48:38,800
we just want european style socialism

1437
00:48:43,270 --> 00:48:42,640
um or scandinavian i mean the ones

1438
00:48:46,069 --> 00:48:43,280
people send

1439
00:48:46,710 --> 00:48:46,079
the ones people tend to point to are

1440
00:48:49,589 --> 00:48:46,720
denmark

1441
00:48:51,670 --> 00:48:49,599
norway and sweden what they have what

1442
00:48:54,150 --> 00:48:51,680
they have is not socialism

1443
00:48:55,910 --> 00:48:54,160
what they have is a welfare state that's

1444
00:48:57,910 --> 00:48:55,920
funded by capitalism

1445
00:48:59,910 --> 00:48:57,920
they were going downhill fast their

1446
00:49:02,309 --> 00:48:59,920
economies and if they hadn't

1447
00:49:03,589 --> 00:49:02,319
picked up some free market reforms and

1448
00:49:05,910 --> 00:49:03,599
put in some capitalist

1449
00:49:08,150 --> 00:49:05,920
ideas they would be bankrupt too like

1450
00:49:09,270 --> 00:49:08,160
venezuela they had a switch away from

1451
00:49:10,390 --> 00:49:09,280
socialism so

1452
00:49:12,230 --> 00:49:10,400
tell us a little bit about that because

1453
00:49:12,870 --> 00:49:12,240
this is a real point of confusion for

1454
00:49:15,589 --> 00:49:12,880
people because

1455
00:49:15,990 --> 00:49:15,599
it's very easy just to listen to bernie

1456
00:49:18,230 --> 00:49:16,000
and say

1457
00:49:19,589 --> 00:49:18,240
yeah what's wrong with those countries

1458
00:49:22,230 --> 00:49:19,599
we should be more like those

1459
00:49:23,990 --> 00:49:22,240
countries and um he says that's all he's

1460
00:49:25,190 --> 00:49:24,000
talking about so

1461
00:49:26,950 --> 00:49:25,200
talk to us about what are some of the

1462
00:49:27,349 --> 00:49:26,960
things that they had implemented going

1463
00:49:29,829 --> 00:49:27,359
toward

1464
00:49:31,349 --> 00:49:29,839
real socialism that they had to then

1465
00:49:33,750 --> 00:49:31,359
unwind

1466
00:49:35,750 --> 00:49:33,760
oh gosh well for one thing they had high

1467
00:49:38,150 --> 00:49:35,760
taxes

1468
00:49:39,670 --> 00:49:38,160
the amount of time i think they had 25

1469
00:49:41,430 --> 00:49:39,680
tax on a car

1470
00:49:43,589 --> 00:49:41,440
they had all sorts of things that were

1471
00:49:45,990 --> 00:49:43,599
just really tough on their economy

1472
00:49:46,870 --> 00:49:46,000
and they try and income taxes as high as

1473
00:49:49,589 --> 00:49:46,880
70 80

1474
00:49:49,990 --> 00:49:49,599
kind of thing yeah those kind of things

1475
00:49:51,990 --> 00:49:50,000
and

1476
00:49:53,349 --> 00:49:52,000
uh i actually do a good job of putting

1477
00:49:55,670 --> 00:49:53,359
in the book

1478
00:49:57,190 --> 00:49:55,680
and if you want to read about it and get

1479
00:49:59,109 --> 00:49:57,200
a lot of detail and answer

1480
00:50:00,870 --> 00:49:59,119
i'd like to answer your question with

1481
00:50:02,630 --> 00:50:00,880
the book but i have to read it to you

1482
00:50:05,589 --> 00:50:02,640
you know there's a lot of data in there

1483
00:50:08,150 --> 00:50:05,599
it's full of data it's got 250 i think

1484
00:50:09,510 --> 00:50:08,160
footnotes that's a lot of a lot of

1485
00:50:11,829 --> 00:50:09,520
references

1486
00:50:13,030 --> 00:50:11,839
and uh the book is called real world

1487
00:50:15,829 --> 00:50:13,040
socialism

1488
00:50:17,190 --> 00:50:15,839
it's on amazon it's in print edition

1489
00:50:19,670 --> 00:50:17,200
it's also in

1490
00:50:20,549 --> 00:50:19,680
kindle edition if you prefer kindle

1491
00:50:22,150 --> 00:50:20,559
electronic

1492
00:50:23,670 --> 00:50:22,160
and it's available in books wherever you

1493
00:50:26,790 --> 00:50:23,680
want to buy books

1494
00:50:27,910 --> 00:50:26,800
and i go through and go into detail why

1495
00:50:31,190 --> 00:50:27,920
it failed

1496
00:50:33,109 --> 00:50:31,200
kibbutz

1497
00:50:35,030 --> 00:50:33,119
you know israel there are a number of

1498
00:50:37,109 --> 00:50:35,040
people that believed in socialism back

1499
00:50:38,710 --> 00:50:37,119
there in the 1940s

1500
00:50:41,270 --> 00:50:38,720
and they tried it and it worked for a

1501
00:50:44,790 --> 00:50:41,280
while as long as it was subsidized

1502
00:50:46,549 --> 00:50:44,800
by the free market israeli economy

1503
00:50:48,309 --> 00:50:46,559
when the government subsidized it those

1504
00:50:49,510 --> 00:50:48,319
little kibbutz's which are like little

1505
00:50:52,390 --> 00:50:49,520
socialist

1506
00:50:53,510 --> 00:50:52,400
towns if you will they were able to work

1507
00:50:55,270 --> 00:50:53,520
but you know what

1508
00:50:57,829 --> 00:50:55,280
they didn't work over time when they

1509
00:51:00,069 --> 00:50:57,839
were no longer subsidized they shut down

1510
00:51:01,030 --> 00:51:00,079
why because people didn't want to work

1511
00:51:03,430 --> 00:51:01,040
for free

1512
00:51:04,870 --> 00:51:03,440
the people who had talent they thought

1513
00:51:06,390 --> 00:51:04,880
they weren't getting paid enough and

1514
00:51:07,190 --> 00:51:06,400
they left and went to other parts of

1515
00:51:09,190 --> 00:51:07,200
israel

1516
00:51:11,510 --> 00:51:09,200
where they get a regular job and regular

1517
00:51:13,670 --> 00:51:11,520
pay and the people who were kind of

1518
00:51:16,630 --> 00:51:13,680
loafers and didn't do anything

1519
00:51:17,190 --> 00:51:16,640
uh they they would stay there they like

1520
00:51:18,630 --> 00:51:17,200
getting

1521
00:51:20,309 --> 00:51:18,640
something for free but they weren't

1522
00:51:21,030 --> 00:51:20,319
producing anything so it just didn't

1523
00:51:23,349 --> 00:51:21,040
work

1524
00:51:25,349 --> 00:51:23,359
and that's what happens uh if you look

1525
00:51:27,829 --> 00:51:25,359
all around at socialism it just

1526
00:51:29,510 --> 00:51:27,839
fails and it fails because it violates

1527
00:51:31,589 --> 00:51:29,520
human nature

1528
00:51:33,910 --> 00:51:31,599
what do you say to people who believe it

1529
00:51:37,910 --> 00:51:33,920
or not will actually point to china

1530
00:51:40,309 --> 00:51:37,920
to say that that's a model of success

1531
00:51:41,109 --> 00:51:40,319
that we should be following how china's

1532
00:51:42,950 --> 00:51:41,119
in because wow

1533
00:51:44,470 --> 00:51:42,960
look how great china is doing and

1534
00:51:47,589 --> 00:51:44,480
they're about to be the largest

1535
00:51:49,430 --> 00:51:47,599
economy in the world well what i'd start

1536
00:51:50,710 --> 00:51:49,440
with and say look at look at what where

1537
00:51:54,150 --> 00:51:50,720
they're standing on they

1538
00:51:57,190 --> 00:51:54,160
they killed roughly 25 million people

1539
00:51:57,910 --> 00:51:57,200
in their in their great famine because

1540
00:52:01,589 --> 00:51:57,920
of their

1541
00:52:03,990 --> 00:52:01,599
socialist ideas uh the torture

1542
00:52:05,030 --> 00:52:04,000
that has gone on in china has been

1543
00:52:06,950 --> 00:52:05,040
horrific

1544
00:52:08,390 --> 00:52:06,960
the stories just make you sick to your

1545
00:52:11,589 --> 00:52:08,400
stomach about how people

1546
00:52:11,910 --> 00:52:11,599
have been treated uh their low opinion

1547
00:52:19,670 --> 00:52:11,920
of

1548
00:52:20,470 --> 00:52:19,680
is just incredibly awesome i've read it

1549
00:52:22,790 --> 00:52:20,480
and i've seen it

1550
00:52:24,470 --> 00:52:22,800
pictures and it's just horrible i'd say

1551
00:52:29,750 --> 00:52:24,480
it's a horrible country

1552
00:52:33,109 --> 00:52:31,510
it's got all sorts of corruption which

1553
00:52:36,790 --> 00:52:33,119
is socialist

1554
00:52:39,430 --> 00:52:36,800
and it'll never compete against us

1555
00:52:40,549 --> 00:52:39,440
we'll beat it well one thing that i say

1556
00:52:43,510 --> 00:52:40,559
you tell me if you agree

1557
00:52:44,549 --> 00:52:43,520
is that yes it's had a resurgence in the

1558
00:52:46,950 --> 00:52:44,559
past

1559
00:52:48,790 --> 00:52:46,960
25 years or whatever number of years but

1560
00:52:51,910 --> 00:52:48,800
that's primarily because it has

1561
00:52:54,470 --> 00:52:51,920
implemented some modicum of

1562
00:52:56,150 --> 00:52:54,480
free markets and that's that's the

1563
00:52:56,950 --> 00:52:56,160
explanation as to why it's doing better

1564
00:52:58,470 --> 00:52:56,960
now

1565
00:53:00,950 --> 00:52:58,480
that's true and that's why they did a

1566
00:53:02,630 --> 00:53:00,960
little better but they also

1567
00:53:04,230 --> 00:53:02,640
now are involved in getting rid of some

1568
00:53:05,829 --> 00:53:04,240
of those reforms because

1569
00:53:07,510 --> 00:53:05,839
they don't really like giving anybody

1570
00:53:09,190 --> 00:53:07,520
freedom

1571
00:53:11,589 --> 00:53:09,200
and then last thing just to talk about

1572
00:53:13,109 --> 00:53:11,599
socialism versus communism

1573
00:53:14,630 --> 00:53:13,119
am i right that if you look and say the

1574
00:53:16,309 --> 00:53:14,640
soviet union which is

1575
00:53:17,910 --> 00:53:16,319
kind of the model of what people call

1576
00:53:20,390 --> 00:53:17,920
communism

1577
00:53:21,270 --> 00:53:20,400
really never became communist wasn't it

1578
00:53:22,790 --> 00:53:21,280
really just

1579
00:53:24,309 --> 00:53:22,800
socialist i mean walk us through the

1580
00:53:25,910 --> 00:53:24,319
difference there well let's let's talk

1581
00:53:28,069 --> 00:53:25,920
about the two words

1582
00:53:31,670 --> 00:53:28,079
okay karl marx who wrote the communist

1583
00:53:33,910 --> 00:53:31,680
manifesto with friedrich engels in 1848

1584
00:53:36,630 --> 00:53:33,920
those two are the ones who really pushed

1585
00:53:39,190 --> 00:53:36,640
socialism and got it sort of going

1586
00:53:41,270 --> 00:53:39,200
it existed before that but they really

1587
00:53:44,950 --> 00:53:41,280
pushed it as a philosophy

1588
00:53:47,109 --> 00:53:44,960
they believe socialism equals communism

1589
00:53:48,069 --> 00:53:47,119
sometimes people would refer to

1590
00:53:51,349 --> 00:53:48,079
socialism as

1591
00:53:53,349 --> 00:53:51,359
the step preceding communism as if there

1592
00:53:54,710 --> 00:53:53,359
were difference but karl marx and

1593
00:53:55,670 --> 00:53:54,720
friedrich engels thought they were

1594
00:53:57,910 --> 00:53:55,680
equivalent

1595
00:54:00,870 --> 00:53:57,920
if you had socialism you had communism

1596
00:54:04,230 --> 00:54:00,880
if you had communism you had socialism

1597
00:54:06,150 --> 00:54:04,240
and i still believe that's the case and

1598
00:54:08,150 --> 00:54:06,160
uh let me just ask you this so some

1599
00:54:09,510 --> 00:54:08,160
people are aware it's been a while since

1600
00:54:12,950 --> 00:54:09,520
i've studied all this

1601
00:54:16,069 --> 00:54:12,960
but um but but none the two terms

1602
00:54:17,990 --> 00:54:16,079
existed so what was

1603
00:54:19,430 --> 00:54:18,000
how would you describe socialism versus

1604
00:54:23,109 --> 00:54:19,440
communism to

1605
00:54:25,349 --> 00:54:23,119
to marx how would he describe

1606
00:54:26,309 --> 00:54:25,359
versus communism sorry they would

1607
00:54:29,109 --> 00:54:26,319
consider them

1608
00:54:30,470 --> 00:54:29,119
synonyms karl marx would consider the

1609
00:54:33,829 --> 00:54:30,480
two words equal

1610
00:54:37,670 --> 00:54:33,839
okay and whereas others would say what

1611
00:54:37,990 --> 00:54:37,680
others would say oh some would say that

1612
00:54:40,950 --> 00:54:38,000
they

1613
00:54:42,230 --> 00:54:40,960
thought that socialism could exist with

1614
00:54:45,349 --> 00:54:42,240
religion

1615
00:54:47,349 --> 00:54:45,359
and communism couldn't they might say

1616
00:54:49,270 --> 00:54:47,359
for example some socialist countries

1617
00:54:52,069 --> 00:54:49,280
will allow religion

1618
00:54:53,910 --> 00:54:52,079
and um but yet if you look at karl marx

1619
00:54:56,710 --> 00:54:53,920
he was an atheist

1620
00:54:58,789 --> 00:54:56,720
and socialism is really its own little

1621
00:55:01,430 --> 00:54:58,799
religion where the government

1622
00:55:02,150 --> 00:55:01,440
is all powerful not god and where the

1623
00:55:05,109 --> 00:55:02,160
government

1624
00:55:05,750 --> 00:55:05,119
everything instead of looking down to

1625
00:55:06,950 --> 00:55:05,760
god

1626
00:55:09,030 --> 00:55:06,960
you know you pray to the government

1627
00:55:10,789 --> 00:55:09,040
instead of praying to god

1628
00:55:12,150 --> 00:55:10,799
so i would say some people thought that

1629
00:55:14,549 --> 00:55:12,160
that was the difference

1630
00:55:17,510 --> 00:55:14,559
some people thought that communism was

1631
00:55:20,549 --> 00:55:17,520
more reflective of totalitarianism

1632
00:55:23,990 --> 00:55:20,559
you know implemented more uh

1633
00:55:25,750 --> 00:55:24,000
dictatorial more murders more torture

1634
00:55:27,430 --> 00:55:25,760
and some people thought socialism was

1635
00:55:29,109 --> 00:55:27,440
part of communism white

1636
00:55:30,710 --> 00:55:29,119
you know less than that but an awful lot

1637
00:55:34,069 --> 00:55:30,720
of socialist countries

1638
00:55:36,150 --> 00:55:34,079
turned out to be uh pretty tough too

1639
00:55:37,990 --> 00:55:36,160
what i have in my head for my time

1640
00:55:38,950 --> 00:55:38,000
studying this was that you've got this

1641
00:55:40,710 --> 00:55:38,960
move

1642
00:55:42,630 --> 00:55:40,720
through and i guess it was from

1643
00:55:44,230 --> 00:55:42,640
socialism to communism

1644
00:55:45,750 --> 00:55:44,240
but that you had this the dictatorship

1645
00:55:48,150 --> 00:55:45,760
of the proletariat

1646
00:55:50,390 --> 00:55:48,160
where there's this period of time when

1647
00:55:51,589 --> 00:55:50,400
you need to redistribute wealth

1648
00:55:53,270 --> 00:55:51,599
you know you got to get rid of the rich

1649
00:55:54,789 --> 00:55:53,280
people and you got to redistribute their

1650
00:55:57,270 --> 00:55:54,799
wealth to everybody because

1651
00:55:59,030 --> 00:55:57,280
it's a commune everybody should be

1652
00:56:01,190 --> 00:55:59,040
equally sharing in everything

1653
00:56:02,230 --> 00:56:01,200
right so you've got this period in which

1654
00:56:05,349 --> 00:56:02,240
the state

1655
00:56:07,109 --> 00:56:05,359
needs to implement this and through

1656
00:56:08,230 --> 00:56:07,119
coercive oppressive means there's no

1657
00:56:09,430 --> 00:56:08,240
other way to implement

1658
00:56:11,829 --> 00:56:09,440
taking somebody's wealth and giving it

1659
00:56:15,030 --> 00:56:11,839
to somebody else and

1660
00:56:17,109 --> 00:56:15,040
that eventually so that would require an

1661
00:56:18,069 --> 00:56:17,119
authoritarian government but then

1662
00:56:19,990 --> 00:56:18,079
ultimately

1663
00:56:21,910 --> 00:56:20,000
you would move to this other level where

1664
00:56:24,150 --> 00:56:21,920
it was the people

1665
00:56:26,309 --> 00:56:24,160
now the commune is complete and we have

1666
00:56:29,510 --> 00:56:26,319
i presume communism at that point

1667
00:56:32,150 --> 00:56:29,520
and everybody's working together and

1668
00:56:32,950 --> 00:56:32,160
nobody's oppressing anybody it doesn't

1669
00:56:36,630 --> 00:56:32,960
work

1670
00:56:38,390 --> 00:56:36,640
course not and there's a lot

1671
00:56:39,829 --> 00:56:38,400
and a lot of people like bernie will say

1672
00:56:42,390 --> 00:56:39,839
well someone saw you know

1673
00:56:44,230 --> 00:56:42,400
venezuela didn't do it the right way

1674
00:56:47,990 --> 00:56:44,240
well they did it the right way they felt

1675
00:56:49,670 --> 00:56:48,000
uh karl marx um

1676
00:56:51,829 --> 00:56:49,680
they'd say lennon didn't do it the right

1677
00:56:55,109 --> 00:56:51,839
well well he was a big advocate for

1678
00:56:56,950 --> 00:56:55,119
paul marks and socialism and they

1679
00:56:58,630 --> 00:56:56,960
might say joseph stalin didn't do it the

1680
00:57:00,309 --> 00:56:58,640
right way well everybody didn't do it

1681
00:57:01,990 --> 00:57:00,319
the right way did they or else they all

1682
00:57:03,589 --> 00:57:02,000
did it exactly right because they all

1683
00:57:06,870 --> 00:57:03,599
followed it

1684
00:57:09,190 --> 00:57:06,880
um socialism just doesn't work that's

1685
00:57:11,670 --> 00:57:09,200
the bottom line of the book i wrote

1686
00:57:12,950 --> 00:57:11,680
what i find stunning is these people

1687
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like zuckerberg

1688
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and other media titans multi multi

1689
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billionaires who don't realize that

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these people that

1691
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you're supporting these progressive

1692
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socialists

1693
00:57:30,950 --> 00:57:28,799
they're coming for you homeboy

1694
00:57:33,510 --> 00:57:30,960
you you don't deserve what you've got

1695
00:57:36,549 --> 00:57:33,520
you made it off the the sweat

1696
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in tears of of of the worker

1697
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and and in a racist society

1698
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that your white privilege put you in the

1699
00:57:46,390 --> 00:57:42,880
position

1700
00:57:48,870 --> 00:57:46,400
to uh to achieve and

1701
00:57:50,230 --> 00:57:48,880
what happens in these social revolutions

1702
00:57:51,349 --> 00:57:50,240
is all the wealthy people have to get

1703
00:57:53,030 --> 00:57:51,359
the hell out of the country

1704
00:57:54,710 --> 00:57:53,040
so zuckerberg they're coming for you

1705
00:57:55,910 --> 00:57:54,720
buddy the guys that you're giving all

1706
00:57:59,030 --> 00:57:55,920
this money to

1707
00:58:00,950 --> 00:57:59,040
yeah but but maybe he maybe he i have a

1708
00:58:02,230 --> 00:58:00,960
theory though that maybe he knows that

1709
00:58:04,549 --> 00:58:02,240
and they're kind of just buying time

1710
00:58:06,630 --> 00:58:04,559
that maybe by paying them off

1711
00:58:08,710 --> 00:58:06,640
i'm like hey guys i'm with you don't

1712
00:58:10,069 --> 00:58:08,720
come and take my house from me

1713
00:58:13,030 --> 00:58:10,079
you know it's almost like an insurance

1714
00:58:15,589 --> 00:58:13,040
policy i'm worth 20 billion dollars

1715
00:58:17,109 --> 00:58:15,599
you know what i'll peel off a billion

1716
00:58:19,430 --> 00:58:17,119
and give it to these guys

1717
00:58:20,950 --> 00:58:19,440
they're paying its protection money

1718
00:58:22,549 --> 00:58:20,960
right well i think that's the reason the

1719
00:58:25,270 --> 00:58:22,559
corporations

1720
00:58:26,069 --> 00:58:25,280
have supported blm i think the donations

1721
00:58:29,510 --> 00:58:26,079
to blm

1722
00:58:33,750 --> 00:58:29,520
are money to be left alone

1723
00:58:35,190 --> 00:58:33,760
i really do i think zuckerberg i'll say

1724
00:58:36,789 --> 00:58:35,200
something else about

1725
00:58:38,870 --> 00:58:36,799
and this is maybe slightly different

1726
00:58:42,069 --> 00:58:38,880
than what you're saying and that is

1727
00:58:45,030 --> 00:58:42,079
um they remind me of friedrich

1728
00:58:47,589 --> 00:58:45,040
hayek hayek was a great economist and

1729
00:58:50,150 --> 00:58:47,599
philosopher of the 20th century

1730
00:58:51,270 --> 00:58:50,160
and hayek wrote a book called the fatal

1731
00:58:53,510 --> 00:58:51,280
conceit

1732
00:58:54,390 --> 00:58:53,520
where the people who are running things

1733
00:58:56,230 --> 00:58:54,400
sort of think

1734
00:58:57,589 --> 00:58:56,240
they're so smart they're smarter than

1735
00:58:59,910 --> 00:58:57,599
the average person

1736
00:59:01,430 --> 00:58:59,920
they can do everything better and i

1737
00:59:02,150 --> 00:59:01,440
think maybe that's what zuckerberg

1738
00:59:04,549 --> 00:59:02,160
thinks

1739
00:59:05,190 --> 00:59:04,559
he's doing his part to do everything

1740
00:59:07,349 --> 00:59:05,200
better

1741
00:59:09,510 --> 00:59:07,359
and he's going to make the world good by

1742
00:59:11,670 --> 00:59:09,520
censoring all those stupid conservatives

1743
00:59:13,270 --> 00:59:11,680
who don't know as much as he does

1744
00:59:14,789 --> 00:59:13,280
and that sort of thing yeah it's the

1745
00:59:17,589 --> 00:59:14,799
bloomberg totally wrong

1746
00:59:18,150 --> 00:59:17,599
it's the bloomberg mentality yeah you

1747
00:59:20,309 --> 00:59:18,160
should not

1748
00:59:21,349 --> 00:59:20,319
have a 16 ounce soda because it's not

1749
00:59:24,309 --> 00:59:21,359
good for you

1750
00:59:25,510 --> 00:59:24,319
and i'm like well thanks jeff for your

1751
00:59:27,430 --> 00:59:25,520
opinion

1752
00:59:29,190 --> 00:59:27,440
but sorry i'm going to make my own

1753
00:59:31,349 --> 00:59:29,200
decision about my own

1754
00:59:32,309 --> 00:59:31,359
body you're not going to tell me what i

1755
00:59:34,069 --> 00:59:32,319
can eat

1756
00:59:35,510 --> 00:59:34,079
but they are so much smarter than the

1757
00:59:37,910 --> 00:59:35,520
rest of us

1758
00:59:39,510 --> 00:59:37,920
right that they need to tell us what to

1759
00:59:42,390 --> 00:59:39,520
eat and what to drink

1760
00:59:43,990 --> 00:59:42,400
yeah like for example the the barack

1761
00:59:48,069 --> 00:59:44,000
obama advisor

1762
00:59:50,069 --> 00:59:48,079
on affordable hacked it's his name um

1763
00:59:51,510 --> 00:59:50,079
i'm trying to think of what his name was

1764
00:59:54,150 --> 00:59:51,520
but anyway he

1765
00:59:56,390 --> 00:59:54,160
uh said basically the american people

1766
00:59:58,390 --> 00:59:56,400
are too stupid to tell them the truth

1767
00:59:59,670 --> 00:59:58,400
about health care you have to just

1768
01:00:02,870 --> 00:59:59,680
spring it on them

1769
01:00:04,630 --> 01:00:02,880
right and that's the fatal conceit

1770
01:00:05,190 --> 01:00:04,640
thinking they know more than anybody

1771
01:00:08,549 --> 01:00:05,200
else

1772
01:00:10,230 --> 01:00:08,559
which is ridiculous thank you again to

1773
01:00:11,270 --> 01:00:10,240
our guest george romero you can check

1774
01:00:13,750 --> 01:00:11,280
out his book

1775
01:00:15,990 --> 01:00:13,760
real world socialism that has just come

1776
01:00:19,430 --> 01:00:16,000
out real world socialism

1777
01:00:20,870 --> 01:00:19,440
on amazon we highly suggest that you

1778
01:00:21,910 --> 01:00:20,880
check out that book as well as his other

1779
01:00:23,910 --> 01:00:21,920
books all available

1780
01:00:25,750 --> 01:00:23,920
on amazon thank you to our producer

1781
01:00:26,549 --> 01:00:25,760
michael parker thank you to our intern

1782
01:00:28,950 --> 01:00:26,559
jake wall

1783
01:00:31,030 --> 01:00:28,960
and we look forward to bringing you

1784
01:00:32,440 --> 01:00:31,040
another episode soon of the hidden truth

1785
01:00:37,190 --> 01:00:32,450
show

1786
01:00:40,390 --> 01:00:38,630
thank you for listening to the truth

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01:00:43,990 --> 01:00:40,400
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01:00:46,150 --> 01:00:44,000
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1789
01:00:47,990 --> 01:00:46,160
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1790
01:00:50,630 --> 01:00:48,000
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01:00:52,950 --> 01:00:50,640
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